George Hill
Staff Alumnus
Just read in interesting article about the new FN Pistol called the Five-seveN.
Now, let me back up here a second... in the same issue there is old Masad talking about soldiers complaining about how week the wussy little M-1 Carbine is shooting it's feeble little .30 Carbine round. He even compaired it to the M-16's .223 - and mentioned again Soldiers who where less than impressed with it's terminal balistics....
Okay - Fast Forward again... The FN pistol. Its even WEAKER than both of those units... It has the ability to zip through soft body armour... but has little effect after that.
Oh - wait a sec - That was out of the longer barrelled P-90!
The shorter pistol gets even less.
The bullets are essentially steel .22 rounds - so they have no chance of expansion. But WOW - they are "Unstable" so they will tumble. Nice. Unstable to me means easier to deflect and inaccurate with a little range and wind tossed in.
I dont see these new weapons from FN as real advancements... To me they seem rather Sgt Yorkish.
And just what is up with the ATF banning this wuss caliber as MIL/LEO Only... Calling it NON SPORTING. How conveiniant for FN! Its not wussy - it's just TOO EVIL for Citizens to handle. Nothing makes a POS seem desirable like making it an EXCLUSIVE POS. This is like 10 years ago film makers TRIED to get an R rating to make the movie seem cooler.
I seriously hope Agencies and Departments in Utah dont buy into this hype.
The FN is certainly nifty looking and undoubtedly fun to shoot. But if you want to outfit your teams - Buy an AR and spend the rest of the money on training - or Beer for the Boys. Anything but wasting it on a UNPROVEN concept. Yeah - it was used in a couple engagements - But do we have the details of the results of these shootings? Nope. Stick with what WORKS...
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Hey - have you seen the new Ultimate Super Tactical Match Gun?
[This message has been edited by George Hill (edited December 07, 1999).]
Now, let me back up here a second... in the same issue there is old Masad talking about soldiers complaining about how week the wussy little M-1 Carbine is shooting it's feeble little .30 Carbine round. He even compaired it to the M-16's .223 - and mentioned again Soldiers who where less than impressed with it's terminal balistics....
Okay - Fast Forward again... The FN pistol. Its even WEAKER than both of those units... It has the ability to zip through soft body armour... but has little effect after that.
Oh - wait a sec - That was out of the longer barrelled P-90!
The shorter pistol gets even less.
The bullets are essentially steel .22 rounds - so they have no chance of expansion. But WOW - they are "Unstable" so they will tumble. Nice. Unstable to me means easier to deflect and inaccurate with a little range and wind tossed in.
I dont see these new weapons from FN as real advancements... To me they seem rather Sgt Yorkish.
And just what is up with the ATF banning this wuss caliber as MIL/LEO Only... Calling it NON SPORTING. How conveiniant for FN! Its not wussy - it's just TOO EVIL for Citizens to handle. Nothing makes a POS seem desirable like making it an EXCLUSIVE POS. This is like 10 years ago film makers TRIED to get an R rating to make the movie seem cooler.
I seriously hope Agencies and Departments in Utah dont buy into this hype.
The FN is certainly nifty looking and undoubtedly fun to shoot. But if you want to outfit your teams - Buy an AR and spend the rest of the money on training - or Beer for the Boys. Anything but wasting it on a UNPROVEN concept. Yeah - it was used in a couple engagements - But do we have the details of the results of these shootings? Nope. Stick with what WORKS...
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
Hey - have you seen the new Ultimate Super Tactical Match Gun?
[This message has been edited by George Hill (edited December 07, 1999).]