SeatBelts, Buckle up, it's the Nazi's.

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K so I think using your cars seatbelt is a smart thing... should it be something that you HAVE to wear? in my opinion NO.

It's your car, and if youre legally able to drive then why is it the governments problem?

I know some may say "it's to save lives" but arent trigger locks for guns also made to save lives?

I think this is another -1 for the people and +1 for total control.

How about you guys?

PS- this came from me driving home and seeing a BUCKLE UP ITS THE LAW sign...with another sign next to it... saying "CLICK-IT or TICKET/ Fines have been doubled"
 
If you were flying a plane, would you be as averse to law about a five-point harness?

TBH, this comes under "Laws for People Too Stupid To Be Smart"

A belt is a pain in the can. No question. But they save lives.

So fine. Penalising people too damn stupid to put their safety restraints on is fine with me, that's just Darwin adding to the state budget. No problem with that one.
 
Lemme put it to you another way.

You live in a state where seatbelts are mandatory, with a fine for non-compliance.

You're a smart person. You're situationally aware. You're forever checking your cardinal points for any and all threats, or in my case I'm being an artist and sucking down my environment at the maximum bandwidth my senses will give me.

We're alert. Aware. Watching. On guard. We're Condition Red 25/8.

But when you're sweeping your three-to-six, some jackass comes barrelling out of the intersection at the ninety per he's been maintaining for the last eighty miles, and caroms off your port fo'ard quarter.

The belt stops you from extruding your brainstem through your ears by way of the wheel.

The belt is not there for your faults. It's there for his.

Wouldn't you feel a little happier knowing that your tax burden is being lightened by Muppet Boy who doesn't have the ken to wear safety restraints whilst operating what in any language is industrial machinery?
 
I agree. I have always thought that if you are doing something which concerns only you, and cannot harm anyone else, then it is your business. That includes seatbelts. Just be responsible for your actions.
 
Trouble is too many people who habitually don't wear seatbelts, ending up in the emergency room for free treatment. You'd be surprised how many don't pay taxes to pay for the firemen who cut them out of the wreckage, don't have insurance, don't have a job and so we the taxpayers have to pay for their care.

Sure you should have the freedom to wear or not wear seatbelts provided the rest of us can have the freedom apply a means test should you become an accident victim. If you have money or insurance, then you should be able to get emergency treatment but if not there are some of us out there who don't want to pay for your ignorance.

In a perfect world all would have all the freedom they can afford. :(
 
I remember just a few years ago when the FDA started recommending that we NOT stuff our turkeys for Thanksgiving....it seems that, every year, a few people get sick and die from improper cooking. So, the FDA has decided that the American people, as a whole, are too damned S-T-O-O-P-I-D to properly cook a stuffed turkey.

What if we were to take a lesson from the seat belt law and simply start fining people who turn up at emergency rooms with Salmonella poisoning the week after Thanksgiving. Maybe expand it to random Turkey Checks on that day. Guaranteed to Save Lives. At what cost?......doesn't matter.

I feel much safer already. :rolleyes:

If you have money or insurance, then you should be able to get emergency treatment but if not there are some of us out there who don't want to pay for your ignorance.
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Name ONE SINGLE Socialist agenda item that would not be proud of this reasoning. Your smoking, your drinking, your over-eating, your lack of exercise, your "overuse" of your car, your number of children, your guns, your THANKSGIVING TURKEY. You name it....it fits every call for individual infringement ever thought up.
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What do the Nazi's have to do with it? I dont recall them implementing a whole lot of safety regulations

In the last three days there have been five fatals in my county - 3 who werent wearing belts and 2 who were'nt wearing helmets. IOW every fatal involved people who boke either the law of the land or the law of common sense. Trying to make it more difficult for people to kill themselves hardly seem to be draconian oppression.
 
Sure you should have the freedom to wear or not wear seatbelts provided the rest of us can have the freedom apply a means test should you become an accident victim. If you have money or insurance, then you should be able to get emergency treatment but if not there are some of us out there who don't want to pay for your ignorance.
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Meek, the point of the social exercise is to maximise freedom, not minimize costs.
 
I make it a point to require anyone in the car with me to have their seatbelt on, doesnt matter if Im driving or not, or if its even my car. If your going to be stupid and not wear it, and probably die in a wreck, dont take me with you when your dead body goes flying around inside the car while its tumbling through a ditch or plowing into a tree. I dont know the statistics, But I know being killed by other passengers who did not have seatbelts on happens more often then you think. Watch this video and tell me if you would want to be in this car, with this guy, in this wreck.

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=noseatbelt.wmv

Click the "Click here to begin your download"
 
I dont know the statistics, But I know being killed by other passengers who did not have seatbelts on happens more often then you think.
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And for that reason we need to pull in law enforcement? I think you'll find a lot more people are killed by the Brown Recluse Spider, drinking cleaning fluids and taking joy rides in clothes dryers than you might think.

Dear Lord, to what extent are we willing to legislate, administrate and criminalize actions of individuals that will ***never*** affect our 3 sq foot ownership of this spinning rock?
Rich
 
I dont understand why is such a big deal to put a freakin seatbelt on, is it too "not cool" for you? This is not a difficult thing to grasp, you put your belt on, and your safer. I would think a forum pertaining to firearms and our endless preaching of religious gun safety would understand this fairly simple concept.

Im not going to get into a flame war over this, because some people just dont get it. So you go ahead, fight the "nazis" and dont wear your belt. It will give the responding crew something to talk about after they scrape your insides off the asphalt with a mud shovel.
 
I dont understand why is such a big deal to put a freakin seatbelt on, is it too "not cool" for you?
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Wearing a seat belt is not a big deal. The government telling me that I MUST wear a seat belt, or be fined, IS a big deal. It is wrong. I wont go the Nazi route, but the Comparison is apt.
 
Agreed as to the "Nazi" comments. Over the top in context of Seat Belt laws.
This one's done a Part Deux would be acceptable, absent the Reich comparisons.
Rich
 
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