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Bush Overruled in Death Penalty Dispute
Supreme Court Says Bush Overstepped Authority by Intervening in Mexican National's Case
By ARIANE de VOGUE
March 25, 2008—


In a victory for the state of Texas, the Supreme Court has ruled 6-3 that President George W. Bush cannot force the state to reconsider a death penalty case, even if the conviction violated an international court's ruling.

Jose Medellin, a Mexican national, was convicted and sentenced to death in 1994 for raping and killing two teenage girls in Houston.

However, the International Court of Justice at The Hague, Netherlands ruled that his conviction was in violation of international treaties, which ordered that the home country of any defendant had to be notified upon the arrest of a foreign national.

Article 36 of the Vienna Convention requires authorities to notify "without delay" a detained foreign national of his right to request assistance from the consul of his own state. At the time of Medellin's arrest, the United States was a signatory to the treaty, but Mexico was never notified of his arrest.

Medellin, a Mexican citizen who had lived in the United States most of his life, claimed that had he known that he could inform Mexican consular officers of his detention they could have potentially assisted him by providing funding for experts or investigators or ensuring that he was represented by a competent defense counsel. Currently, there are 50 other Mexican nationals on death row in America.

Taking the side of Medellin, Bush issued a statement admitting that the United States had breached the applicable article of the Vienna Convention, and determined that state courts had to abide by the treaty. This meant they had to then review and reconsider the sentences and convictions of the death row inmates.

Bush claimed that his determination to have the states reconsider the cases came from his "authorized power to effectuate" treaty obligations.

The Bush administration ordered the Texas state court to reopen Medellin's case in order to comply with the treaty. Tuesday, the Supreme Court ruled that the president could not make such an order. The president is allowed to "execute" the laws "not make them," the court concluded.

Texas had argued that the president's actions in the case were intrusive on the sovereignty of the states. Greg Abbott, attorney general of Texas, argued that Texas could not be forced to reopen the cases because "the presidential memorandum transgresses the authority of Congress, of the judiciary and of the states."

Abbott used strong language to outline Medellin's crimes, which include participating in the gang rape and strangulation of two young teenage girls, Jennifer Ertman and Elizabeth Pena.

"Medellin was tried and convicted of murder during the course of a sexual assault," Abbott wrote. "A jury unanimously recommended a death sentence."

Texas had asked the high court to consider the presidential memorandum to be a "request," not a "command."

Government lawyers wrote in legal papers supporting Medellin that the president "has recognized authority to resolve disputes with foreign nations over individual claims, and to establish binding rules of decision that preempt contrary state law."

The government lawyers said that the "compelling national interests served by the president's determination outweigh the relatively modest intrusion on state interests."

The Supreme Court said Tuesday that Bush did not have that power over the states.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the opinion and was joined by Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and John Paul Stevens, who filed an opinion concurring in the judgment.

Justices Stephen Breyer, David Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg filed a dissenting opinion.


--------- How things twist! Bush goes for Mexico and the Liberal judges support him and his buddies don't support authoritarian Presidential power.

Very confused here :confused:
 
I said I would give this new court the benefit of the doubt, and I think I made the right decision. I'll still give it a few years, but so far they seem to be doing their job.
 
Why would Bush be so concerned with a foreigner getting a fair trial in this situation - a foreigner that raped and killed two American teenagers?

Yet in the case of some average Ahmed rounded up in a sweep in Afghanistan or Iraq, Bush has no problem locking him up incommunicado indefinitely, with a little torture thrown in to soften up the guy.
 
While I agree with the court's decision on a moral level, I'm not sure if it is the *right* decision. I haven't read it so I really can't comment, but based on what I have read in this post and the article, the decision only addressed the Pres's involvement, not the treaty itself. Treaties have the force of law at the constitutional level, and my not address weather Texas did anything improper.
 
the decision only addressed the Pres's involvement, not the treaty itself. Treaties have the force of law at the constitutional level, and my not address weather Texas did anything improper.
From what I read on the decision, what the court said was that treaties are binding on the federal government, but not the states also, IF the treaty is in conflict/violation of an already standing law of the state, in which case, its binding to the feds, and also to any and all states in which it doesnt violate standing state laws or its constitution.I dont recal what exactly it was about Texas law that conflicted and made them decide it didnt bind them though, sorry.I know its mentioned in an article I read though.

I personally think that was the right call on SCOTUS's part.I very surpising decision/affirmation of "state's rights" from the court, IMHO.Havent seen a lot of that from the feds recently thing like staets medical marijuana laws, and SEVERE abuse of the commerce clause to typically do as they please.
 
The way I read it, the SCOTUS ruled that the POTUS is not allowed to order the states to re-try anyone: States rights, you know. If it had been a federal case maybe there could be a different story.

Good on those six SCOTUS justices. This could have ramifications for UN style gun control.
 
Why would Bush be so concerned with a foreigner getting a fair trial in this situation - a foreigner that raped and killed two American teenagers?

Undue influence on El Presidente Bush from Mexican bilionaires and US corporate interests.

Money talks, and the American middle class and border residents can take a flying leap as far as El Presidente Bush is concerned.

Get ready for even more carnage on our Interstates now that El Presidente Bush wants to allow Mexican trucking Nationwide access.
 
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