Scope, Rings, and Mount - Ruger 10/22

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Well, today I went and did it.

Volquartsen HP Action Kit, Volquartsen Automatic Bolt Release, Green Mountain SS fluted Barrel, Hogue Overmolded Stock for Heavy Barrel, extra magazines.

Now I need a scope, rings, and a mount. I will be doing most shooting at 100 yards and under, very little if any hunting (mostly target shooting). I know NOTHING about scopes, but if possible I would like to pay under 150 for the whole package. What do I need to know about scopes?
 
Dear Mr. "I decided to stick with the factory barrel,"

You need a Weaver mount, Weigand makes the best one for the price. You need Weaver rings no higher than necessary to keep your scope above the top of the barrel, usually medium depending on the size of your scope aperture. The 4x4 rings are the most secure (they have four screws per ring instead of two).

That said, chck out

www.Midwayusa.com

for some good scope deals. Get at least a 3x9x40mm, maybe a 6x20x44 depending on your anticipated range.

Regards.
 
The stock scope rail should work fine if you want to save a few bucks. My first 10/22 has the stock rail on it and it has worked OK. That 10/22 is the one I do new stuff to to try out before modifying my other 10/22s. It's got a cheapo Tasco 3-7X25 on it with .22 rings. The other modified 10/22s, however, have Leupold bases, rings, and scopes on them (except for the one in a plastic 2/3 scale MG42 stock). A fixed scope between 4X and 10X should do any job you have specified. For variables, I would go 3X-(up to)10X or a 4X-14X. I prefer the Leupold mount (or other similar mounts) as it centers the scope with the receiver. For the dove tail rails, most rings have one side fixed with the other side doing all of the clamping. Because of this, the scope, although parallel with the bore, is usually off center. Not too big of a deal but not preferable to me.

With all of the mods you have planned for your rifle, don't discount on spending a little more for a good scope. Leupold Vari-X IIs are going for a pretty good price nowadays as they are being phased out. Unfortunately, they usually go for $200+ new. They are gauranteed though.

Although the Tasco has worked OK also (for 12+ years), it cannot compare with the Leupolds for image quality. Don't let those incredible deals on BECs and BSAs persuade you. They are as cheap as they are priced. I did buy a BEC and a BSA to see for myself. Spend your money elsewhere. They'll do in a pinch but build quality and optical image are well below average.

Recently bought a Burris Black Diamond to be on top of an AR but cannot comment on its actual use as the AR it's destine for is not here yet. It seems to be well above average from just holding it in my hands and looking through it.

You probably can't go wrong with Pentax, Nikon, Burris, Weaver, Simmons, or even higher end Tascos and Bushnells BUt I don't have any experience with these other thant he low end Tasco. The Euro scopes are probably out unless you can find one used.
 
HAHA, I actually ordered the Hogue stock for the standard barrel. I thought about it for 20 minutes, and decided to call them back (Midway) and get the bull barrel stock instead. I then ordered the Green Mountain barrel from Cabela's.

I figured that iron sights are for HANDGUNS. This is my first rifle, and I have the cash to do it right....so I am going to do it right. Besides, one look through the stock sights and I knew a scope was going to be a necessity :rolleyes:

That front bead sight is an exercise in futility, I can't imagine shooting beyond 50 feet with the damn thing. Of course, my horrible vision and tiny (but very stylish!!!) glasses don't help much.

3X9X40mm...can someone break that down for me? I am a rifle virgin, and have no idea what those numbers mean.

I want something versatile, something I can focus from 15 feet out to 100 yards.

How are the Volquartsen scope mounts?
 
HKsigwalther has excellent advice on scopes in general. Couldn't have done better. Here's another tip though that I try to follow. Whatever the price of your gun with the added goodies, expect to pay up to half that amount on a scope. Say for instance, you spent $500 on the gun, then it'll be in line to pay out $250 for the scope.
 
3-9X40

3-9 : indicates the range in magnification in a variable scope. i.e., from 3 times to 9 times magnification. Usually based on personal preference, range your planning to shoot, shooting discipline (e.g. benchrest, deer hunting, plinking, etc.).

X : 'by' as in 2"X4", or 7.62X51 indicating dimension. Some people will also take it as to mean magnification as in 3X (times).

40 : The diameter of the objective (the far end of the scope) lens. Measured in millimeters. For shooting in areas with low light or at dawn/dust, the larger the objective size, the more light passing through the scope, the brighter the image.

For years Leupold had misidentified there scopes by using (e.g.) 3X9-40. It irked me to no end. It's only been a handful of years ago that they finally changed to the correct nomenclature.

Some basics :
The side you look into : ocular (eye)
The other end of the scope : objective
The body : main tube
The crosshairs : reticle

15 feet is very short. Low magnification on a normal scope would probably be needed to see with clarity. Unless you use a scope with something like a Leupold with Extended Focal Range.
 
I am so indecisive!!!!

I cancelled my order for the Green Mountain barrel, and stepped up to a Volquartsen stainless match barrel. So the final count is -

10/22 Stainless

Volquartsen HP Action Kit
Volquartsen Automatic Bolt Release
Volquartsen SS Match barrel
Hogue Overmolded Stock

I will probably order the Volquartsen receiver mount.

Thanks so much for all your help, I will go check out some scopes. I still am unclear as to how you choose the proper rings, as far as height is concerned.
 
Simmons 1022T 3-9x32 A/O, Matte, Finger Adjustable Windage & Elevation Knobs

What do you guys think about this Simmons scope? SWFA sells it for 120 bucks.

What rings would you recommend for this scope?
 
32mm objective is relatively small. You should be able to get away with either medium or low ring height depending on your base. The only criteria for ring height is clearance of the objective bell to the barrel (or base) and/or a height that will allow you to see through the scope when you have a comfortable cheekweld to the stock when shooting.
 
Maybe it's just me, but mounting a 3-9 or 4-10 (or more) variable scope on a .22 LR seems like a waste. You're going to be shooting out to 100 yards, so a fixed 4x ought to be plenty, IMO.

For the money you're looking to spend, I'd be looking at a Tasco. You should be able to get the scope, rings, and a base for that $150.
 
I advise you to buy the best scope you possibly can even if it means waiting until you put together more money. The caliber of a rifle shouldn't dictate whether or not you get a quality scope. The cost of the scope vs. the cost of the rifle also has no bearing on anything either. I hear people say, I am not going to pay as much for the scope as I did for the rifle. Why ? What if I gave you are rifle free ? Does that mean you can't scope it ? If you are trying to shoot for max. accuracy at 100 yards it doesn't matter if you are doing it with the finest target rifle ever made or a 10/22. You still need to see as well as you possiblly can in order to get the most out of it. Something you should seriously consider are "silhouette" knobs. You simply can't shoot accurately if you have to use Kentucky Windage to hit a target. .22s are severely effected by wind at 100 yards, a gentle breeze that you can just barely feel might move a .22LR bullet 4-5" at 100 yards. I also know that my 10/22 requires 17 clicks of elevation over a 25 sight in (at 100 yards). If you spend any time at all shooting 100 yard groups, a 4x scope is not enough. I dabbled in rimfire silhouette briefly (have always meant to get back into it but never have). In that sport you shoot out to 100 meters. The SOP there was to shoot enough to get comfortable with a relatively low magnification and as you become more experienced at shooting offhand, increase the magnification as high as you can shoot. There were guns shooting 60x. Believe me, it makes all the difference. Would you rather try to hit something that looks like a pin head at 100 yards or something that looks like a car at 100 yards ?
 
Good starter scope

LEAPERS 3-9X40 ACCUSHOT RIFLE SCOPE $49.99

www.tapco.com

http://www.tapco.com/store/prodinfo.asp?number=OPT0301&variation=&aitem=15&mitem=21&back=yes

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aircraft-grade aluminum, hard anodized black matte finish. Optics utilize four layers of high-tech coating material that allow an amazing 99.5% light transmission per lens surface. Duplex reticle with windage and elevation knobs that are finger adjustable in guaranteed 1/4 minute clicks. In addition, the 1" tube units have a fully integral machined knob housing, not screwed intoplace, thus eliminating any potential leaks, and improves tube integrity.

See–Thru lens covers included with each scope. Weight: 15.8 oz. Click Value: 1/4" (1 click @ 100 yds) Field of View: 41'-14.7' @ 100 yds Magnification: 3x-9x Exit Pupil: 12-4.4mm Objective Diameter: 40mm Eye Relief: 3-3.3" Tube Diameter: 1" Length: 12.4" Life time guarantee.
 
I just picked up one of these rifles last week. It has a Leupold one piece base and rings. It seems to be a very solid mount. I like it.

For what it's worth, Tasco appears to have cleaned up their act considerably.
I compared one of their 6x24x42 mil dot scopes side by side with Bushnell, Leupold Vari-X II, Burris, and Weaver when I was at my local gun shop the other day. I compared clarity, brightness, and field of view. I wasn't concerned with the price as I'm a firm believer that you get what you pay for and I plan to keep it for a while.
I took the Tasco home. It's going to replace the 4x12 Redfield on my .223 varmint rig.
 
One thing not yet mentioned. The receiver of the stock 10/22 is aluminum/aluminum alloy. It is VERY EASY to strip the base mounting holes with the small steel mounting bolts. Be careful.
 
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