Scope Quality

jmr40 said:
I really, really like the Burris 3-9X40 FF-II. Never handled the 2-7X version, but it has 1/2 MOA click adjustments. That is a deal killer. Everything else is 1/4 MOA.
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I've owned a few Burris FFII's two in the 2-7X35 and the deal killer wasn't the 1/2 MOA adjustments. Tons of popular scopes have used 1/2 MOA adjustments think Leupold M series and Vari-X II scopes. The real problem I had was with the rotating eye piece for power changes. Made it impossible to use flip up scope caps on them, my last hunting trip to SE Alaska made me use a different scope because of this little problem. I never had a problem making windage and elevation adjustments and getting groups with the scopes and getting them on target. The coin slot adjustments are a bit of a turn off with all the newer scopes with finger adjustable turrets.

I have two of the Vortex Viper 2-7X32 scopes which when I bought them I'd consider them on par with the VX-II Leupold scopes only a little heavier. What I really like about them is that the main tube is long enough to work with a long action rifle like the OP's .30-06. I do not like the power indicator on the scopes though, it is big an ugly and if mounted low enough can strike the bolt when cycling when shooting on 7X. Now that the VX1 is out and the Viper 2-7 is discontinued except for special runs by CameralandNY, the VX1 is the better value.
 
I am fast falling out with Leupold. Their bench rest scopes are killing me. Whats really aggravating is their customer service refusing to admit there is a problem. If they are happy with three of their most expensive scopes getting badly outgrouped by a cheap Weaver and a Tasco custom shop, then what else is there to say?
 
Originally posted by taylorce1 referring to the Burris FFII-
The real problem I had was with the rotating eye piece for power changes. Made it impossible to use flip up scope caps on them, my last hunting trip to SE Alaska made me use a different scope because of this little problem
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This is one big reason Burris came out with the Fullfield E1. It is very similar to the FFII but it uses a more traditional style adjustment ring instead of the whole eyepiece turning.
 
However with a $20 off Cabela's coupon you can pick up the VX1 for less than $200 and be nearly the cost of a Redfield Revolution.
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The Revolution is basically the VX-1, with the addition of finger click turrets instead of the friction ones on the Leupold.

All things considered, you can't go wrong with a Leupold.
 
reynolds357 said:
I am fast falling out with Leupold. Their bench rest scopes are killing me. Whats really aggravating is their customer service refusing to admit there is a problem. If they are happy with three of their most expensive scopes getting badly outgrouped by a cheap Weaver and a Tasco custom shop, then what else is there to say?
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So what's the problem? Scopes not holding zero or something else?

reynolds357 said:
The Viper is a bit better than "on par with" a VXII.
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I'd say that optically they are about the same, but I'm comparing similar power scopes and not BR scope to hunting scope. I'm strictly a duplex reticle guy, that's what I like on hunting rifles. Optics are only one part of what I look for in a rifle scope for hunting. The Leupold has a more forgiving eye box as well as lighter weight by a couple of ounces. The Vortex did have better turrets though. I also have a 6.5-20X44 PA Viper and it optically is better than my VX-II 4-12X40 AO and my Bushnell Elite 4200 4-16X40 AO, but it is a pig and will not be used hunting only at the range.

Revoltella said:
The Revolution is basically the VX-1, with the addition of finger click turrets instead of the friction ones on the Leupold.
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The VX1 no longer has friction adjustments they are all finger adjustable "click" turrets. Have been since Jan 2012 as jmr40 pointed out. They have the same lens coatings as well as the VX-II scopes. The VX2 got updated to all the old VX-III tech, and the VX3 got all new lens coatings that is supposed to provide better contrast in low light as well as light transmission.
 
My advice to you is to carefully check around, read reviews and if possible look through all the scopes you can before you make your decision. I own scopes from Weaver, Bushnell, Super Sniper, Vortex, Horus, and even an el cheapo Simmons(It came on my Savage .17HMR as a package and it hasn't failed so I never had a reason to change it) With the exception of the Simmons, I carefully selected each scope for a particular purpose and none has failed me yet. The best overall line of optics is without a doubt Vortex. I have owned 3 and just picked up a FFP Viper 6-24x50 PST. Even the inexpensive Crossfire I had was an excellent scope. I ended up selling it to a friend because he really wanted it. It has done duty on his .270 for 3 years now without fail. Scopes have come a long way in the last decade or so, and there are lots of good ones out there for not a lot of money. Just be sure and get the one that suits your eyes best.
 
Vortex Crossfire II

If I wanted to scope that 06, Id steer clear of the Crossfire. I've owned it and my .270 gutted it... I'd opt for the Diamondback which is a Vortex, but like Reynolds mentioned earlier its made in the Phillipines, and its heads and tails better... I replaced the Crossfire with the Diamondback and absolutely love this scope..;)
 
I replaced a VXII that gave me nothing but problems with one of the now discontinued Zeiss conquest 3-9's. It made all the difference in the world.
 
I agree with FatWhiteboy; The Nikon BuckMaster is one of the best quality, bang for your buck deals out there. It preforms as good or better than many scopes costing 3-4 times as much. Very clear, crisp and RUGGED. I put one on my Remington 700 BDL .270 and the accuracy just amazes me.
 
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