Scope choice for a light, compact carbine.

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MODS: We don't have a specific "optics" forum so I guessed. If it belongs in gear & accessories feel free.

I’m trying to decide between 2 particular scopes for use on a specific rifle. I have some specifications I need to meet & have whittled the short list down to 2 models. Both are similarly priced & have similar specifications so it’s down to the details so I make the “best” choice between them.

I’m familiar with the 2~7 rather than 3~9 magnifications & have the Nikon Monarch 2~8 X 34 on my No4 Enfield. As I’m aiming (sorry) for a light, compact handy setup I’m quite willing to lose the extra 1X mag to gain the goal of a light(er), handy(er) scope for use on a sporterised No5 Enfield “Jungle Carbine”. The Nikon is a fine scope, but its bulkier than either of the choices I'm looking at. If it makes any difference I’ll be using the S&K Instamount with the proprietary rings, not the Weavers, to mount the scope, which will be permanently attached as my ability to use iron sights is shot due to advancing decrepitude:p

Choice No1 (in no particular order of preference by me) is the Redfield Revolution 2~7 X 33 with the 4-plex reticule, cat # 67080

Choice No2 is the Burris Fullfield II 2~7 X 35 with the “ballistic plex” reticule”, cat # 200123.

But I have a couple of questions for owners of those particular scopes to help me finalize the decision.

Is the eyepiece adjustment & zoom ring still the same unit on the Burris?
I ask because in some descriptions it says it is & some list them being separate as a specific thing so you can use flip-up type caps. I know from past experience with a 3~9 Fullfield II with the two on the same drum its difficult & unsatisfactory to have the flip up cap release rotate as you change magnification.

Does the newer Burris have finger adjustable turrets, not the older coin slot type?

Has anyone here actually used the Redfield Revolution? Better still has someone used both so they have a side-by-side comparison to offer?
 
I think either of your choices would work just fine. I would also suggest a third scope, the Leupold 2x7. I have one on a Winchester M70 Featherweight in 7x57 and it's a great set up. The Redfield is made by Leupold I understand and has the same warranty. I have several Burris scopes on rifle and they've been reliable as well. Flip a coin or get the one at the best price and go shooting..:cool:
Paul B.
 
I to have a 2-7 leupold. Its mounted on a 7mm08 compact and makes for a really sweet set up. At 200 bucks its really hard to beat this glass.
 
Which Leupold do you guys have?
VX, VX-1, VX-2

Do they have the features I'm looking for? The certainly are compact & quality is automatic with Leupold, but if they don't meet the spec (which includes price) then its not happening.

It looks like I'd need a VX2 to get the features I'm looking for & they are considerably more than the choices I'd selected.

In all honesty I'm utterly confused by the various incarnations of VX(x), what is the real difference?
 
Leupold Vari X, VX, etc.

Any Leupold labeled "Vari"-X (I, II, or III) is two series out of date. They are no longer manufactured, so can only be found as used scopes.

The next newer series was "VX" (I, II, or III). They are also now found only as used scopes.

The newest series are also "VX", but the Roman Numerals are replaced with 1,2, or 3.

In all 3 series, the higher the suffix number, the better the optics and, therefore, the higher the price. A VX-3 starts at a little over $400, and goes up in price to over $600 (IIRC) as magnification increases.

The scope I use on my Win M70 Short Action Carbine is a Vari-X III with a magnification range of 1.75 to 6X, 32mm objective. It cost me $250 used, and it has better optics and better lens coatings (Multi-coat 4) than either of the new scopes you are considering. It is really a compact, light weight, bright scope, and has a lifetime warranty that transfers to any owner, not just the original owner. It was a quality scope when new, and it is still a quality scope - but affordable.
 
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Which Leupold 3-9X40? At $100 you probably did OK, but it makes a huge difference as to the model and age. If it is a Rifleman that is a fair price used. An older VX-1 or VX-2 would be a better deal. If it were a current production VX-1 or VX-2 you stole it. If you bought an older Vari-X or VX with roman numerals it is a pretty old scope. Decent scopes in their day, but there are better options made today.

A 3-9X is a bit more magnification, but useable. I would have suggested the 2-7X Redfield or VX-1 if on a real budget. For the ultimate in lightweight and compact size a VX-1 in a 1-4X20 is the way to roll.
 
another vote for the leupold 2-7


or have you considered a 1-4?

I have a v3 1,5-6 and it greatly suits my needs on my 223, i have also used it on my combination gun and shoot flying birds with it

and shoots over 200 meters (okey only once but it worked)
 
Major Dave. Good summary. One other difference between the VX2 and VX3 as I understand is the VX3 uses a 1 piece tube and the VX2 has a tube assembly.

I had just at gone through a long decision process between the Monarch3 , the Zeiss Conquest OPMOD and the VX3. I ultimately decided to go with the VX3.

I couldn't find enough info on the Zeiss. I like their "NEW" rapid Z 600 reticle, but not so much the old one and couldn't find which it had. Also there is just not a lot of info on it. The monarch 3 had good features but with the adjustable Parallax was 1/2 lb heavier than the VX3. I was also not really sold on the circles in their BDC instead of just lines.

Although happy with my purchase, I am sure any of these would do the job.
 
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