Scope alignment adjustable bases ?

Alx

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I was told that a scope that has NO external adjustment for "windage" or lateral alignment with the bore, (compared to a windage adjustable base,) can only have its crosshairs reticle adjusted accurately for one distance, and will be off to one side or the other at closer or farther distances.
This is an exacting precision question, and whether or not the difference is negligable or noticable is not the point. The point of the question is as to how a scope is made and the technical aspect of alignment.
Some scope mounts, especially the rail type, allow NO alignment adjustments of the scope externally, to correct any optical or mechanical misalignment LATERALLY.
Theoretically and actually, assume for the moment that the scope is collimated correctly, and mounted directly over the bore, its optical system plumb and windage adjusted in perfect vertical plane alignment. The reticle should be able to be adjusted for perfect zero windage at ALL distances.
BUT if (and assume so ) the scope base and rings assembly has to be just a bit off perfect external alignment, assume an amount that would require internal crosshair correction, actually decentering the cross-hairs from the scopes true optical axis, is this then going to make the POA laterally dependant on one set distance, ? OR is the new corrected internal alignment theoretically and/or actually corrected for all distances LATERALLY in spite of the de-centering of its cross-hairs from the scopes true optical axis. ?
Please note that the vertical parallax error is not in question, and that there is no question that the usual adjustments for range would apply in the up and down dimension.
The upshot of the problem, is the question of whether a scope base with lateral adjustment would be needed to maintain a true zero'd windage adjustment reference.
IF the question is understood, answers would be welcomed.
 
If the axis of the scope is horizontally offset by X, and the zero distance is Y, then the windage error component coming from the sight/bore horizontal offset is X*"RANGE"/Y.

In other words, a 0.1" offset will and a 100-yard zero will cause 1" of error @ 1000 yards.

But note that those windage adjustable bases do not shift the entire scope side to side, they usually hold one end in place and move the other end, rotating the scope, which does not fix the problem, but just gives more windage adjustment than the internal adjustments may allow.
 
Can't argue with you, but, in using adjustable bases and scopes w/o adjustment I have had no problems with accuracy for hunting. Have not tried any real competition with this setup, however. Guarantee the animal target does not notice at 300+ yards. I worried about torque on the scope but supplier rep not to worry.
 
No, I agree, and I don't worry about it either, even shooting to 1000. The vast majority of scope bases and rings will center everything up pretty well, and you'll notice even a 0.1" offset because it will be obvious just looking at the setup.

There are rings which are adjustable side to side, like the US Optics rings. These have a claw and screw on both sides so you can set them exactly on the center of the rail. But for most setups, it isn't an issue.
 
<<The reticle should be able to be adjusted for perfect zero windage at ALL distances.>>

That's not possible if you include long range shooting. At long ranges, the bullet will precess and nutate, causing it's path to deviate slightly to the left or right, depending on the direction of the rifling.
 
Cowart's input is something you can watch! Set a spotting scope behind the bench and focus to about the midpoint to the target. One can watch the bullet (or at least its wave) and watch the drift and the opening of the spiral. I used this (as learned from an old Camp Perry shooting buddy who was on a Canadian team in the '50s) to determine which bullets were most stable downrange. Some were good, some were horrible, and you would wonder how you hit anything with some beyond 500-600 yards. Especially very light (22s at 3000+) bullets. Kinda like the cover picture on the Speer loading manual circa 79-80. Works best with fair hunidity. You can also compare same bullet/load out of different rifles ... doesn't mean both are not deadly. Fun, too.
 
".... precess and nutate " , I had forgotten to consider that, but should have remembered - the German LP08 artillery Lugers have a rear sight calibrated for distances of 1 to 8 (hundred meters) which also shifts automatically to one side to compensate for the bullets' spin off course.
 
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