School lunacy redux

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God, how much more of this lunacy can this country take? And, 6 years old and on Ritalin already!
http://www.cantonrep.com/Boy, 6, jumps from tub into sex harassment trouble

By Lori Monsewicz
Repository staff writer

CANTON — A 6-year-old boy who jumped from his bath and ran to his window to stop a school bus was suspended from school for sexual harassment.

The boy’s mother said that the city schools’ Early Childhood Education Center Principal Julie Behner on Cherry Avenue NE suspended the boy for three days and forced him to sign a paper admitting that he knew the nature of the charges against him.

“He doesn’t understand all that,” the boy’s mom said. “All he knows is that he missed a school field trip.”

Local attorney Steve LoDico said Wednesday that he had filed an appeal with the school board and asked that the matter be heard in executive session at the board’s next meeting.

Superintendent Fred Blosser said Wednesday that he did not know about the boy’s case and that, even if he did, he could not comment because to do so would violate the child’s privacy.

Behner did not return calls from The Repository seeking comment.

LoDico said he took the case for free.

“I took no funds from this family, but this case just bothers me,” he said. “A very innocent thing happened. Now we have a 6-year-old boy being suspended from school who didn’t even understand why. All he knew was that this was his first school field trip ever, and he wasn’t going to get to go. That broke the little boy’s heart.”

The mother said her son, who is being treated with Ritalin for Attention Deficit Disorder, loves school, and he was disappointed that he wasn’t going to get to go to school that morning because of a doctor’s appointment.

“I put him in the tub so he wouldn’t see the bus” when it arrived to pick up her daughter, she said. But her daughter announced the bus’ arrival and then ran to meet it.

He heard her.

The little boy, who was nude, got out of the tub and ran to the window to yell for the bus not to leave, the mother said.

Paperwork presented to her from Behner on April 19 states that the child stood naked “in front of the window and exposed himself to the children on the bus, put his hands in the air and danced around.”

The boy was suspended from April 20 through May 3, which included the Easter break.

The class field trip was to have been to Amish country April 20, his mother said.

LoDico said parents of the child’s fellow students along the bus route have said that the school “blew the incident way out of proportion.”

The boy’s mother has since removed both children from the school. They’ve been admitted into another city school.

Still, she said, she is appealing the charge against her child because she and her son were humiliated by the accusation.

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:( Oh poor little tike just wanted to go on the field trip! I can't believe they made such a big deal out of this. Kids will be kids and they have no shame what so ever. I don't know of any kids that age that care if they are naked or who sees them. So what if he came to the window he probably thought it was funny just as any other normal kid that age would. I'm sure the mom grabbed a towel as soon as she was able. He has no idea what sexual harrasment is how can someone be charged with that when they don't even know what sex is? I think the school is at fault here, if anything they could have just talked to the parents, no need to be suspended :( I feel sorry for the kid.

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This country is getting sicker and sicker. I have no words anymore to descibe my disgust and anguish at the direction we are heading.

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THIS PISSES ME OFF! You've got a kid who loves school, wants to go, and you punish him for this! What a bunch of f______ing morons! Unbelievable. Blame it all on the professional victims and the scumbag liberal, ACLU, feminazi loving lawyers out there. Damn, I HATE being a lawyer!
 
Some a$$hole is patting him or her self on the back for "protecting the children" over this. They can't solve the real problems, so they do things like this.
 
MissD, let's just say I didn't some editing before posting. If I hadn't, I would have been kicked off in a heartbeat.
 
I suppose next, they will charge the bus load of kids with being peeping toms. What a bunch of idiots. Looks like another beurocrat is in desperate need of a few love taps from the ole clue bat. Lets see. We have a kid who is disappointed in NOT getting to go to school and what do we do, Punish him. Geez. Another prime example for home schooling.

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This is just one of the reasons I'll be homeschooling our kids, starting this summer. The more I read about it (homeschooling), the more excited I get!

Hopefully my wife will join me as she sees the results. The only reason it hasn't been done before is because she feels woefully inadequate, and I felt that I was too busy working.

It occurances like this that have caused me to rearrange my priorities.

I am so looking forward to it!

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Well you can add my disgust to all of this. Gads! The trouble I would've been in when I was a kid. Let's see. Guns are baaaaad. The human body is an obscenity. Normally active little kids need to be doped up under a silly name called attention defict disorder. What the hell is going on? I forget where I read it, but some doctor said that 90 percent of the kids on Ritalin were just normal active kids. Seems to me the system just can't be bothered. When my oldest grandson comes to visit, I insist that he not be on Ritalin. He drives me nuts, but is the same way as I was as a kid. Exuberent with life and trying to enjoy every minute of it. On Ritalin, he is a zombie, not even coherent as to what is going on around him. He hates the stuff, but his mother insists he keep taking it. GRRRRR!
Why are those JACKASS doctors doping them up? I also read someplace that the kids that shot up their classmates either were, or had been on Ritalin or one of it's substitutes. Kinda makes one want to think, doesn't it?
Paul B.
 
Paul, zombie kids are easier to control, and easier for SOME* parents than exercising a bit of good old discipline.

Most of the kids who have perpetrated mass murders (let's start calling the incidents by their real names, umkay?) were on psychotropics, yes. The problems apparently start when the meds are stopped. No headpeeper me, so I can't say exactly what's going on there. Glenn, you want to take a shot at this?

*: Put the flamethrowers on safe, folks, I said SOME parents. Like a certain ex-girlfriend of mine.
 
Yet another example on Why you should keep your kids out of the hands of the idiots running givernment schools. Principal Julie Behner shouldn't be principal of a school of neons in a goldfish bowl, let alone of a school full of Our Future.

I wonder if the kid was on Ritalin at the school's suggestion, which is likely. This issue is somewhat off topic, except that most of the recent (last decade) school shootings have involved kids on Ritalin. The best summary on Ritalin I've seen is by Jerry Pournelle, and I post it here:

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Well, I have less expertise on ADD than "dyslexia" simply because it hardly existed when we were active in correcting "learning problems" (which now seem to be "learning disorders"). So far as I can tell, a great number of the cases of ADD translate into "In school while being a normal boy", i.e., "we're having trouble teaching this kid self-control, we're not allowed to whack him a few as they did to you when you were an unruly kid in Capleville, so we are going to drug hell out of him."

Having raised four boys to manhood without losing any to the police, drugs, or madness, and without having drugged any of them, I can tell you that boys need a heck of a lot of imposed disciple so that they can learn self-discipline; something that I am sure comes as no surprise to an anthropologist but seems to be a major shock to most of those in the "social sciences" and "human sciences". I have noticed that a lot of bright kids are drugged as ADD, and they become a great deal tamer, but they also lose a lot of what we prize bright kids for.

When they integrated my wife's school (a county detention school formerly all girls) she got a lot of boys who would be diagnosed as ADD today, but the County didn't at that time believe in drugging its wards and tried not to do it. She managed to teach them without drugs.

I do not know of a good unbiased study of ADD. I know of thousands whose conclusions were known before the study was done, or which use such sloppy methodology that no conclusion could be drawn. It's a hard experiment to design; but is it reasonable to assume that in 30 years we have gone from an unrecognized problem to one requiring us to drug over 20% of the boys in school? It does not seem reasonable to me.

I do know that it is a lot easier to drug kids than it is to teach them self-discipline. I also suspect that the threat (with actuality if needed but the threat is usually sufficient) of corporal punishment seems to help a lot in teaching self-discipline: the kids need something to be afraid of. When I was young we were seldom beaten whipped or otherwise struck, but we were somewhat afraid of it, and more, we could use that fear with our peers: "I'd love to do that with you but my folks would beat me to a pulp." Of course they wouldn't beat me to a pulp, but by putting forth something we all legitimately feared, we had a good reason not to put bags of burning dog-turds on the neighbor's front porch and do other things that we thought would be a very good thing to do except that the consequences would be severe. And "being grounded" wasn't a big threat at least not in WW II when it wasn't possible to "ground" farm kids, and in high school when few of us had cars or access to cars in the first place.

I suspect but can't prove that the explosion in cases of ADD correlates with the total abandonment of corporal punishment for boys (and yes I know that this sort of thing can be over-done. I have read Tom Brown's School Days and other such stories; I can only say that in my time we were terrified of the Sisters in early grades, the teachers in middle school, and the Brothers in high school, but I know of no one actually harmed by these "child abusers"...)

And I don't need abusive letters from psychiatrists who seem to think I want nothing more than a chance to flog children. My point was that teaching self-discipline requires a credible and effective deterrent to the behavior you are trying to get them to extinguish. Mere withdrawal of privileges and rewards is sometimes effective but not often. Kids know what you will and will not do. Also, punishments that require a great deal of wasted time are time wasters, while assigning academic work as punishment is very likely to teach an obvious lesson we don't want taught. A whack with a wide belt or ping pong paddle is mildly painful but no more so than boy get daily in their normal course of life; it is over with swiftly; and it is credible.

Let me emphasize again: teaching self-discipline is work for both the teacher and the pupil. It is one of the hardest lessons for bright, active, young boys to learn. It is also one of the most important. Drugging them does not teach them much other than lessons about drugs; it certainly does not teach mastery of urges.

I have no magic solution to this, but my wife tells me that in LA County at least the drug companies are getting rich, more than a quarter of the kids are drugged, and the situation is getting worse, not better.
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My 5 year old AND my 3 year old niece are both 'spazoids' :D They are both hyperactive, they like to just keep going and going and going , its called ENERGY!!! I see no reason for either one of them to take any type of drug they are basically good kids just a little hyper, like 99% of kids that age. Coinneach hit the nail on the head " easier for SOME* parents than exercising a
bit of good old discipline." That is absolutely true in most cases. I think there are a few kids that may need these drugs but it has gotten so out of control. We try to keep kids away from drugs yet we are the ones starting them up on it. No one said parenting was going to be easy , to me its the hardest job I ever had. Yes I do believe that a few kids really need it but when you actually know five or more kids on it, there is a problem.
 
School discipline is now a thing of the past. Any public school official that lays a single finger on a kid is screwed (or sued as the case may be...). Corporal punishment is/was the only punishment that meant anything to me as a child. The threat of being spanked vs. grounded was a joke. All the kids who never got any real punishment (not corporal) and just got grounded were brats and had no respect for anything (several were friends).

Since the schools can no longer administer corporal punishment, the only recourse is to render the problem child incapable of causing trouble.

This is so wrong I can't express it in words. Any principal (I don't have kids yet) that does this to my child will have problems with me too.
 
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