Scaring women away from shooting!!!!

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Recoiljunkie44

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Is it just me or are alot of other guys out there very sad at the stupid display of machoism (that is created by getting inexperinced girls to shoot rather large calibers) so that they end up either always afraid to fire a gun or just really afraid of all guns! An example i can give is when target praticing at my fathers house out in the country with my brother and his now ex! She wouldn't even try shooting because the first and only time she had ever shot guns a boyfriend and a couple of his friends took her out and had here shoot a 835 mossberg 12 gauge with 3 1/2 inch shells which she wasn't prepared at all for! Also while out plinking tin cans with my girlfriends family i experinced another macho act that made me mad! my Girlfriends mom was a first time shooter so I took her up to the firing line with my single six revolver with 22 shorts and after reloading 5 times went to 22 LR . She was doing just fine when her boyfriend suggested she try his 45! I told her she didn't have to but he kept insisting! After pulling the trigger the first time she came walking back over to me telling me her hand hurt! That was the end of her shooting for the day, but the next time whe went out all she wanted to shoot was my 22!:barf:
 
Yeah, not sure what the fascination is. Ill admit, I have gotten a good chuckle out of an NCO knocking herself in the head with her own M9 after being too arrogant to listen to the airman telling her she was holding it wrong (LOL, told ya so ma'am!).

But setting up someone you supposedly care for seems kinda cruel.
 
I think it falls under "Little Weenie Syndrome".

Unfortunately, there seems to be a lot of it going around these days, and especially around here. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah I Kinda got back at my girlfriend mom's boyfriend though! He was Bragging about this and that so i shot my SBH with 44 specials through about 3 reloadings then put some farily hot 44 mag handloads in the SBH and let him try it! MR macho put it down after only pulling the trigger twice!
A little bit of payback but not nearly enough for keeping a future gun enthusiast away! ;)
 
This is one of the few things I see that truly make me angry... I like to start women out with a .22 rifle if a don't have access to a .22 pistol... I don't know why guys do this to women...
 
Sometimes it goes beyond just the use of hand-cannons to get a quick laugh. Every time I've taken a woman shooting or instructed one, I have always fired the gun and ammo first then let her decide if she wants to try it. A no means just that.

But I've also seen guys bring a woman to the range and try to show them how to hold the gun or stand -- like a cheap R-rated movie they're wrapping their arms around her, getting right against her or otherwise inappropriate touching (geez, get a room!).

And fer gossakes, if you're taking a lady to the range, please tell her not to wear a plunging neckline shirt! Especially if she's busty. A hot 9mm case from the next lane can bounce over a divider and into her shirt. It's not funny to get a burn there (sorta like getting one in your shorts).
 
I once saw a guy demonstrate the harmlessness of shooting a rifle to a girl by firing a .22, then handing her the 30-06 when it was her turn. She was a sturdy woman and took the recoil fairly well, albeit very surprised and less than pleased..... I don't think they ever dated after that.
 
Some guys are just clueless

Do they really think such behavior earns them cool points? If they get cool points from their buddies for such stunts, they should really find new buddies.

That said, friends of mine have played the "hide a magnum in a cylinder of specials" game with each other for years. The difference is that none of us are inexperienced, and none of us are overly recoil sensitive.

Pulling this on somebody you know well, who does similar things to you in turn, is completely different that doing anything of the sort to a newbie.

This is the difference between friends playing pranks, and guys bullying somebody smaller, newer, and / or weaker. It's definitely not cool.
 
Those same "macho" males (term used VERY loosely), are also the same mall ninjas that give ALL gun owners a bad name - they tend to video record their massive stupidity and post it on Youtube, thinking it's funny. And if one of their friends had done it to them, they would have been mad. Folks like that, IMO, deserve to lose their guns for a period of time until they demonstrate some semblance of adult mentality and maturity.
 
I think you might ought to start everyone out with a .22, kids, women, curious libs, etc. and let them work up at their own pace, or decide some intermediate power level they are comfortable with. I mean, in handguns, I went from a .25 I bought on a whim, to a .357 mag and a brand new box of nice hot Federals. Man that was suprising to me, even expecting some more oomph. Never bought another box of expensive factory ammo for that gun, I just got a basic Lee loader and loaded down those 50 cases over and over for a long time. Firearms attract intelligent types and they also attract morons, too.
 
I ALWAYS start new people with my S&W Model 18 .22LR. Moving up to .38/.357, 9mm, or .45acp after that requires a combo of their desire to try the next round, and my comfort level with their probable ability to handle it.

The .44 magnums I reserve for people in whom I'm pretty confident, and only after seeing them handle one of my .45 or .357 handguns.

Whether at the range or on the mat, it isn't cool to mess with newbies.
 
The only time it's cool to mess with"newbs" is father/son. My first experience with a major caliber was a breech loading 12ga with a deer slug, when I was about 8. It's almost a rite of passage in these parts.

Besides that, no it's just not nice.
 
I totally agree and I use the term; "Caliber Burnout" it not only happens to women but to young shooters as well. I've been working with my Grandsons trying to get them interested again, after their father started them out with hot shotgun loads. At our M/L teaching station I introduce ourselves and right off ask if there are any folks who are apprehensive about shooting a .50 Cal.??:eek:
Most have heard the loud reports and seen the smoke prior to coming to our station. The noise is music to my ears but certainly not to theirs.
I then explain that their fears are understood and that we are not there to teach anyone a hard lesson, show off or hurt anyone. That such conduct is detrimental to our teaching efforts and in poor taste. The releif is palatable.

When I take my grandsons to the range, they no longer ask if it's going to kick but I also tell them what to expect and we don't rush anything. :rolleyes:

Be Safe !!!
 
I took my parents shooting for the first time last night. My mom stuck with the .22LR handgun almost the whole time and I was fine with that. I've been trying to get her to the range for months!
 
You know, it doesn't matter if it's a woman, a kid or someone who you may call your friend; if you are trying to hurt them or embarass them - you are a jerk.

It takes three times as much effort to fix some one who has been "tuned up" by one of these dirty tricks. That is IF you ever get them back shooting again.


These are the guys who get served the divorce papers and never see it coming.
 
I taught my wife to shoot with a 617 and, then, a Smith & Wesson Model 41. The result: she's a consistently more accurate shooter than I am and, today, she's comfortable handling everything right up to and including .44 magnums.

People who introduce women to the sport by handing them something nasty are not interested in creating shooters so much as they are in humiliating their victims and, in a really perverse way, proving their manhood to themselves. Let's face it: none of the jerks who hand a magnum to an unsuspecting woman and say "here, try this" are interested in anything other than making themselves look good at someone else's expense. That they prove themselves to be asses in the eyes of most onlookers never occurs to them.
 
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