Scandium S&W recoil
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scandium recoil
You won't want to shoot a box of any kind of magnum through it. A few rounds will be enough for most folks. Sweet for carrying around, though.
Every hand gun is a compromise of something, although I'm sure there are those that have found their personal "holy grail" gun. My S&W M696 comes close, but.......
You won't want to shoot a box of any kind of magnum through it. A few rounds will be enough for most folks. Sweet for carrying around, though.Every hand gun is a compromise of something, although I'm sure there are those that have found their personal "holy grail" gun. My S&W M696 comes close, but.......
Dusty Miller
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Well, if the rule is "practice with what you'll shoot for real" then losts of folks with these guns may have to face combat with reduced loads. If that works for'm, fine.
Scandium S&w 38/357 J Frame,
.38 Specials - Mild rear recoil with modest upward bias. forearm moves back and up maybe 15 degrees. No "sharpness" or particularly strange torque.
2nd shot realignment is fast for targets within 25 feet. You can easily shoot 35 rounds before you find yourself pausing.
.357 Magnums - Strong rear recoil with strong upward bias. Wrist may slightly "break" prior to the full arm moving up, forarm maybe 25 degrees, full arm say 15 degrees. Sharp snap and some rotation torque. 2nd shot is moderate for targets within 25 feet. After 5 rounds you will want to pause.
Great, reliable gun for concealed carry. Weighs nothing. With a laser grip may very well be one of the most extraordinary carry guns ever offered outside of a custom gun shop.
Having said that, if you are looking for recreational shooting, I would say .357 are unpleasant to shoot in this frame/barrel. If you believe you must train ALOT and carry the loads you train ALOT with, I believe you will be carrying a .38 Scandium.
Hope this helps, many may feel very differently.
.38 Specials - Mild rear recoil with modest upward bias. forearm moves back and up maybe 15 degrees. No "sharpness" or particularly strange torque.
2nd shot realignment is fast for targets within 25 feet. You can easily shoot 35 rounds before you find yourself pausing.
.357 Magnums - Strong rear recoil with strong upward bias. Wrist may slightly "break" prior to the full arm moving up, forarm maybe 25 degrees, full arm say 15 degrees. Sharp snap and some rotation torque. 2nd shot is moderate for targets within 25 feet. After 5 rounds you will want to pause.
Great, reliable gun for concealed carry. Weighs nothing. With a laser grip may very well be one of the most extraordinary carry guns ever offered outside of a custom gun shop.
Having said that, if you are looking for recreational shooting, I would say .357 are unpleasant to shoot in this frame/barrel. If you believe you must train ALOT and carry the loads you train ALOT with, I believe you will be carrying a .38 Scandium.
Hope this helps, many may feel very differently.
dairycreek
New member
I've had a S&W 386 for somewhat over a year now!
And what TFL says in his post is pretty much in accord with my experience with the 386. I have found it to be a wonderful concealed carry weapon and tend to carry 38 special plus P's in it for that purpose. While shooting 357 loads in it is not the terrible, wrist breaking, painful event that some say; the recoil is substantial and not something I want to deal with for round after round of practice on the range.
I have carried the 386 as a woods gun and when doing that I tend to use full house 357 ammo. FWIW
And what TFL says in his post is pretty much in accord with my experience with the 386. I have found it to be a wonderful concealed carry weapon and tend to carry 38 special plus P's in it for that purpose. While shooting 357 loads in it is not the terrible, wrist breaking, painful event that some say; the recoil is substantial and not something I want to deal with for round after round of practice on the range.
I have carried the 386 as a woods gun and when doing that I tend to use full house 357 ammo. FWIW
Mannlicher
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Hey, its a defense weapon, not a range queen. Sure it kicks and bites, but I bet you would not feel it at all if the chips were down.
black&blue
Inactive
Amen to that. I've been carry one in 357 for about a year and love it. I move around a lot at work, and it never gets in the way or feels cumbersome. It does sting a bit with full on 357's at the range, but it's not that bad if you've been shooting for any length of time. BUT, Mannlicher said, it's not made to be a plinking gun, it is made for one reason, and it does it very well. Sure you want to practice as much as you can, but don't let people scare you off. It's not that bad. I tell my friends that it feels (with 357's) like bare handing a baseball at moderate velocity.
One quick question to Mannlicher and Black&blue...
Gentlemen,
This person isn't asking about 357 magnum rounds being fired in general, he is asking what the experience of those that own and use S&W revolvers in Scandium is. These revolvers are very different than all other light weight framed J frames.
The questions is.....
Do you both own and shoot a S&W Scandium revolver and if you do what is your experience with Magnum rounds in this frame?
Thanks
Gentlemen,
This person isn't asking about 357 magnum rounds being fired in general, he is asking what the experience of those that own and use S&W revolvers in Scandium is. These revolvers are very different than all other light weight framed J frames.
The questions is.....
Do you both own and shoot a S&W Scandium revolver and if you do what is your experience with Magnum rounds in this frame?
Thanks
black&blue
Inactive
OK, let's clarify it a bit more. It's a baseball with moderate velocity (like this 
) not a Ron Dibble anger ball (like this ). I shoot heavier recoiling guns more often than not, and I don't think it's too bad, not a joy, but not too bad. If I shoot 20-30 rounds my hand will have a tint of blue the next day. Generally I'll put about 10 shots through it, and I'm moving on to a real range gun. In those cases, there's no "after affects".
After I've had it for a year would I trade it for something else, no. I really like it. And if you do want to shoot more with it, get some .38's, or sign on as a catcher and work up that hand!
Brian
) not a Ron Dibble anger ball (like this ). I shoot heavier recoiling guns more often than not, and I don't think it's too bad, not a joy, but not too bad. If I shoot 20-30 rounds my hand will have a tint of blue the next day. Generally I'll put about 10 shots through it, and I'm moving on to a real range gun. In those cases, there's no "after affects". After I've had it for a year would I trade it for something else, no. I really like it. And if you do want to shoot more with it, get some .38's, or sign on as a catcher and work up that hand!
Brian