Savage vs. Remington

Prof

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I have seen many posts lately about how the Savage 10FP is a great gun EXCEPT for the trigger (which has to be honed or replaced). How about the equivalent Remington 700. It is higher in price but does one need to "fix" its trigger out-of-the-box, too?
 
All I'm aware of is this...

The Savage 10FP (or 10FLP in my case) costs between $325 - $375, and a timney trigger is around $60 - $85... that's from $385 - $460 for the whole shoot 'n Shabang, with 1/2 moa quite common. I don't think you can touch that for less than $700 for a heavy barrelled Remington.
 
Not knocking the Savages as I know they are a very good value and usualy shoot well. I paid $550.0 for my heavy barrel Rem VLS however and have only floated the barrel and adjusted the trigger and have no problem shooting 1/2" 5 shot groups with the right recipe (308) so yes you pay a little more but not a huge diference when you add the cost of the new trigger for the Savage.
 
Couple of months ago, I paid $509 for a Rem. VLS, in .243. I really wanted another VS, but they don't make the VS in .243. I free-floated the barrel with a Dremel tool; bedded the recoil lug and tang with Marine Tex, and installed a Timney trigger. I could have gotten by fine with the factory Rem. trigger, but I like to go under 1# sometimes. If you are satisfied with 2-2.5#, the factory Rem. trigger will do fine. Adjustments to the Rem. trigger are easy.
 
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dont even get me started :) :) :) :)

savage sucks!!!
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"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", but, it would take a blind man to see beauty in a Savage.
 
i sold my 700 even though it is a very nice shooter. my 110 savage kicks the remingtons ass!!.
and this with the plastic stock. have a factory wooden one but just don't like the feel of it.
 
While my personal experiences with Remingtons have been excellent, I have a few friends who swear by Savages. Local friend of mine has whatever Savage is the heavy-barrel .223 varmint rifle, with a Sharpshooter trigger. It's a shooter. I just prefer the Rems, mainly because of the triggers. Also, when one throws in the H-S Precision stocks on the VS's, VSSF's, Sendaros, the Rem is just hard to beat for the money.

[This message has been edited by WalterGAII (edited October 30, 2000).]
 
For another Savage opinion check out www.snipercountry.com/savage.htm

More opinions are like more free advice; you get out of them what you pay for them. I personally have no experience with Savage rifles.

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Prof, have you laid them out side by side and compared? I really doubt you'd have to ask the question if you had.

A friend of mine brings his Savage out to my place to shoot now and then, I've got a couple different 700's and I let him shoot them. His rifle doesn't see much action out here.

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Prof
I have a 10flp and I am shooting 1-1.5 moa at 100 yards,and as for the trigger a hex key and a little emery take care of that problem.
Keepem in the black. J.
 
My only experience came when I bought my first Remington over a year ago. It was a stainless/synthetic with the detachable box magazine, in 30.06. After carefully breaking in the barrel, the best 100 yard group I could get was 2 3/8". Well, for all the RemHype about accuracy, this would not do. (I was still kicking myself in the butt for getting rid of my Browning Stainless Stalker in .270. 1/2 moa w/ reloads, and 3/4 moa with two different factory loads, and it was never touched by a 'smith). So I took it to a 'smith and had them float the barrel, re-cut and true the crown, lap the lugs and polish the bolt face, and smoothed the trigger to 2.5 lbs (about 250.00 for all this), the dang thing still would not shoot. Best group at 100 yds after all that was 1.75" Accurate enough for hunting sure, but not what it should have been. Sold it quick and waiting to buy another Browning. Been thinking about the Savage though.

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Prof;

I've got both Remingtons and Savages. IMHO they're both fine guns, but it pains me to see folks bad-mouth the Savage triggers. I can't speak for "old" Savage models, but the newer guns have an adjustable trigger that will very easily adjust down to around 3 - 3 1/2 lbs safely. it's got a very crisp pull at that point and would satisfy all but the VERY most discriminating shooters. Also IMO, for the money, you'll not beat the Savage for out-of-the-box accuracy and overall shooting ease.

I guess it all boils down to - ya pays yer money and takes yer pick. :D

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My Savage FP10 in .308 is a real shooter. Sub 1/2" MOA is the norm with this gun. I kind of think of it as a Glock typ rifle: In that it works great and I am not afraid of screwing it up if I work on it.
 
Gentlemen:

Thank you all for your opinions. Now I am really confused!!! :) Seriously, all of you have made some fine points. Muleshoe, I haven't had an opportunity to lay them out side-by-side but I can see that I will need to do just that and shoot both to make a sound decision. All of this good information has convinced me that both are good rifles but appeal differently to different people. Again, thanks to all for your assistance.
 
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