I've not shot one. Really liked the concept until I actually held one. I could see a lot of uses for a lightweight 20" 308 carbine with iron sights. But they have the cheap Stevens 200 stock on them which would have to go. They put a midweight barrel on them which not only makes the gun way too heavy for what I had in mind using it for, but the balance is terrible with such a heavy barrel combined with the lightweight stock.