I just got one of these inexpensive Savages, and I'm wondering about what kind of groups at 100-200 yards are you guys getting with either factory ammo, or handloads.
This is very true Taylorce,But you can not become a better shooter if you don't have the load to do it with. One can improve both . We know the Axis is capable of Sub MOA very easy. With a so so load you will never become a sub moa shooter.
You must have a rifle and a load that will shoot sub moa to get better, otherwise you are just sending lead down range.
You must have a rifleand a load that will shoot sub moa to get better, otherwise you are just sending lead down range.
When new, that military sniper rifle with a commercial name on it shot about 1 MOA or better at long range with good lots of M72 30 caliber match ammo. It slowly got less accurate over the years and then yes, it was a 2 MOA rifle at 1000 yards when it was retired. But it started out much better. 2500 rounds through the best of the .30-06 match rifles makes them 2 MOA shooters at long range; a well known fact among top classified shooters going back to the early 1900's.If you ever read about Carlos Hathcock his M70 .30-06 he used was only a 2 MOA rifle, but it was 2 MOA day in and out.
Among these was the rifle that Carlos Hathcock used during his first tour in Vietnam, but Land says Carlos’ rifle was anything but a tack-driver:
“Snipers today talk about half-minute of angle. Carlos Hathcock’s rifle barrel looked like it had been sandblasted. On the inspection sheet, you’d say, ‘Slight pits throughout.’ His rifle would hold about two minutes of angle. That’s 20 inches at 1,000 yards and that’s what he had to work with.
“We had M1Cs and M1Ds available that would hold a minute of angle, but they didn’t maintain their zero.
“But Carlos’ rifle maintained its zero day in and day out.”
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