Sales at big box stores this Holiday season?

bricz75

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Anyone anticipate any bolt-action rifle sales at the big box stores this holiday season? Both a sale and a rebate would be sweet.

Below are some manufacturer rebates being run.

Browning
http://www.browning.com/products/promotions/detail.asp?bg=x&Id=55

Savage
http://www.savagearms.com/promotions/

Remington
http://www.remington.com/pages/news-and-resources/rebates-and-promotions.aspx

Thompson/Center (through Nov. only)
http://ammoland.com/2014/08/thompso...nto-savings-promotion-for-bolt-action-rifles/
 
Very nice; thanks.

I have found that the Black Friday Academy sales are good, but a little too good to be true. For example, one year they had a "Rossi" 44 mag revolver for something like $279.95 or some such. In the picture, it looked exactly like a Taurus, but just with the Rossi name. So I went over there at 5am and stood in line and bought one in the rushed manner that you have to at those deals. Well, turns out, the "Rossi" looks like the Taurus but ain't the same gun - it's cheapened considerably (sleeved barrel, and painted on finish; not blued) - so turns out, you get what you pay for anyway. Although the Tri-Star semi auto home defense type shotgun WAS an actual pretty good value I felt like, that I bought at the same time.

And by the way, the A-bolt 3 is such an epic fail. Detachable mag, really? You already HAVE the X-bolt for people who want that nonsense... How am I gonna get a hinged floorplate gun from you now, Browning? I can't. The world is going to hell in a handbasket, I tells ya.
 
rants of cheaper products aside, I agree that you get what you pay for and black friday is killing product quality. supposedly, and I can not divulge my source, but ATK has been working feverishly to make 22LR ammo for walmart to be delivered this month for their black friday sale. all ammo is going into 50 round boxes(no bricks guys) and all ammo is being sent through(normally seconds are sent to different packaging and sold in the company store to employees), no QC turn downs of any kind(not safety related). all so that walmart can sell a maximum of 2-50 round boxes(much of which will probably not go bang or be reduced velocity) to the millions of idiots that storm the store on thanksgiving night and black friday morning thinking they are getting a deal but are really just contributing to what has become a nationwide hoarding mindset.

I just bought 300 rounds of CCI minimags for $35 dollars, about kicked myself for the act but I figured they would be nice for grouse hunting, 12 cents a round is abyssmal in my opinion, but it was on the shelf and there was no telling when it would be back. 2 days later I went to a different store which I have now officially boycotted. they had stacks of 50 round boxes of 22lr for $13.50 each for standard velocity, bulk pack ammo which used to be sold by the brick, people were still buying it like it was hot cakes. fellow that runs the store also had an entire box of 30 round AR mags for $30 each... not the brightest when it comes to pricing.
 
What is wrong with detachable magazines?

Do you mean, besides being something critical to lose in the field, while serving no purpose at all? They suck and I hate them on a turnbolt. They are great on a semi-auto made for self-defense.
 
you will lose your detachable magazine in the field and they serve no purpose?
the US Military must hear of this dire news right away!:D
now that I've made my jest. it's all a matter of personal experience and preference but I have never once lost a single magazine in the field, and I hunt with det-mag guns a lot. I've never dumped a mag on hikes, hunts, or range days... not once. once had a guy in the navy dump his M16 mag over the side of the ship... nobody has any idea how he accomplished that little feat of genius. if you actually make sure it's seated properly, which should go without saying, I do not see any mag ever deciding to remove itself from the rifle in the field unless either
1. the mag is out of spec
2. the rifle is damaged
3. you throw the rifle off a cliff and let it hit every rock on the way down.
 
Absolutely they serve no purpose in hunting - which is why the US .mil is a completely different apples/ oranges comparison.

And yes, dropping a mag accidentally and losing it does happen. Happened to me with T/C Icon Original Medium action. It happens to actual hunters crawling around in briar and brambles. Perhaps it doesn't happen to armchair hunters who either never go into the field, or park the truck, walk 50 yards to their stand and climb up. I don't know, cuz that ain't me.

The point being is that there are loads upon loads of people who just don't know that detachable mags are useless as teats on a boar hog, because they are newb hunters or armchair hunters, and they're buying into the hype and marketing, fueled mostly by the tactical rifle crowd, who never met a "field" that wasn't the mowed lawn of their range, and who think that their hunting rig actually needs the same mag change capability as their "tactical rig", assuming their tactical rig ever needed that in the first place (which it didn't).

And someday, when some of these newb & armchair hunters become actual hunters, a small but significant minority of them will be cursing the conventional wisdom when they lose a mag, and will be looking on gunbroker for an old turnbolt with a hinged floorplate or blind mag like a Rem ADL, and getting rid of the crap which caused them to ruin their precious small amount of hunting time, and quite possibly miss the trophy of a lifetime.

But even with US .mil sniper rifles, in truth they'd be better served with hinged floorplates. One shot one kill, remember? Not 10 shots, then mag change, then 10 more. Even the late Chris Kyle, the American sniper, who killed truckloads of insurgents with his boltgun in Iraq, would have been able to handload from the top 100 times over with time to spare, given the relative rarity of shots. No way in hell that that guy ever shot more than 5 rounds in a row without having anywhere from minutes to hours, to casually reload from the top to get ready for the next event - and he's the most prolific sniper in US Mil HISTORY!!
 
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It happens to actual hunters crawling around in briar and brambles. Perhaps it doesn't happen to armchair hunters

ouch, I've never been called an armchair hunter before. I need to add that to my naughty names page in my diary. my average hunt involves walking, usually no less than 1 mile and sometimes as much as 13 miles over rough terrain, sometimes through brush, sometimes through thickets, sometimes through stubble fields, and sometimes up near vertical hillsides. I hope that disqualifies me as an armchair hunter. I still, have not lost a single magazine while hunting.
The point being is that there are loads upon loads of people who just don't know that detachable mags are useless as teats on a boar hog, because they are newb hunters or armchair hunters, and they're buying into the hype and marketing
personally, I love the idea of having 2 or 3 magazines in my pocket, spotting an animal which is not my intended quary, but still fair game and then picking the magazine which is most useful for that particular animal and firing without having to individually jack rounds out or catch them as they fall out when I unhinge the floor plate. that's not marketing, that's just practical utility pure and simple. infact I had never even thought of doing that until I went hunting with my little brother who had an enfield who had 3 mags, one of SSTs for deer, one of heavy round points for elk, and one of FMJs for coyotes... the practicality of that setup in a bolt action astounded me and I've been applying it to hunting ever since. I rarely go hunting without at least one big game mag, medium game mag, and a varmint mag. again, that is real world practicality not marketing.

And someday, when some of these newb & armchair hunters become actual hunters, a small but significant minority of them will be cursing the conventional wisdom when they lose a mag,
perhaps but this sounds more like the angered ranting of a single disenfranchised person that has had the misfortune of losing the batteries for his toy car and doesn't want to play anymore. as I've said, I have a couple hours out in the wide open spaces, I have not lost a magazine, but that's not to say I might not someday. however if I did lose a mag, it would be no different from a hinged floorplate coming undone, in fact I would likely lament the loss of the ammo in the mag more than the mag itself and the same would happen with the floorplate.

as for no utility at all, you apparently have never had a gun completely lock down on you. I have, bolt so tight it required a beating with a hammer, something which I would not have wished on anybody without a hinged floor plate or detachable magazine because when it happened to me, I still had 3 rounds in the magazine. I would not have even touched the damn thing if I had no way of removing the live ammo before hand. I'm sorry that you've lost a mag, but that does not mean that every person, or even most, will ever lose on in the field and to claim zero utility because you've had a booboo is completely narcissistic.

also we are getting off topic, topic is how terrible black friday is :D
 
I worked with a fellar years ago who bought a brand spankin new deer rifle, with a detachable magazine, while in his trusty ole ladder stand, and while it was still dark,he fumbled the install and bounced the magazine off the floor of his stand that sent it into the unknow. He still could load one round so he wasn't too mad, you know "one shot one kill" right.?,well the buckbof a lifetime came into view just after first light giving him a clear broadside shot at about 50 yds....he missed and fumbled again to load one more round into rifle as the buck just stood there...bang!!..missed again, bang miss,,,,,the deer never moved. BANG!!!!! The buck fell over...so the fellar climbed down to go inspect his buck, and the deer jumped up and took off over the.neighbors barbed wire fence, he said the buck didnt show any signs of injury just ran the hell off....

The next monday at work I listened to this jackass badmouth magazines and ammunition and scope companies, ...,,finally told him to shut the hell up and buy better ewuipment, practice and learn to shoot....,he quit the job and left that day..,.,,,dont know why ,,pretty decent job...,,,,,,,......just a jackass...,
 
I guess if you don't like detachable magazines you can always go the way of the Lee Enfield which I believe in battle had one magazine wired to it and a spare in the soldiers bag.

I can't say I have ever lost a magazine either.
 
supposedly, and I can not divulge my source, but ATK has been working feverishly to make 22LR ammo for walmart to be delivered this month for their black friday sale.

Thanks for the heads-up.

all ammo is going into 50 round boxes(no bricks guys)

Bummer. I'm curious to know how much they'll cost.
 
ouch, I've never been called an armchair hunter before.

And I didn't call you one either. What on earth would make you think I did? If you think I did, then you DO have reading comprehension problems. Read it again and show me where it says anything about YOU being one.

I'm trying to HELP people not make the same mistakes I did. That's all there is to it. Am I a little enthused because I KNOW they're being misled? You betcha. Why? Because I care and like to help people.

And missing out on the trophy of a lifetime potentially (and me trying to help people, ya know, NOT do that) is very very different from a "toy" as you mention. I really don't know what you're talking about. It's real simple. They suck. They're unnecessary. They serve no purpose, and they're bound to mess up a hunt sooner or later. It's a terrible trend, just like cheap stocks and plastic trigger guards are terrible trends. They've worked for you so far - great. More power to you - keep using them. You're young - I know because we had this exact same conversation before - as I said then and say now - give it time. You'll get wiser at time goes by, tahuna. You're already smart; now add some wisdom. Or don't. I don't care - but don't put words in my mouth.
 
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my response was more tongue in cheek than anything. I was simply refering to the fallacy of accident when you said that armchair hunters don't lose mags, whereby extension I am an armchair hunter because I have lost no mags, somewhat of a pun on my part. I hate over generalizations but I love to make the too... it's a bit of a catch 22. as for I'm young... it's a matter of opinion. if you ask a man who's been around long enough to get to collect his social security checks, yes I'm young. if you ask any of my nieces and nephews I'm ancient... stuff happens. when the first stoners came out people said that because they were mostly aluminum and plastic they would never last... well aside from the fact that much of them were garbage due to DOD cutting corners, there are still 1st generation M16s around today in select collections where the owners are willing to pay for the BS class three fees. coming up on 40 years ago now people claimed that glocks would never standup to a metal gun because they were mostly plastic, there are still a heck of a lot of 1st generation glocks around. perhaps they won't last the 2.5 centuries that some select muskets and such have but I believe that unless we're talking about the cheap plastic stuff that remington was churning out in the 60s and 70s then we're probably going to be alright...
 
for deals on camo, I've found that usually around middle of december when stores start liquidating stock is the best time. other stuff, just comes around when it does.
 
The rifles our soldiers carry have detachable magazines. Are their lives being unnecessarily endangered due to lost magazines?

Some of you guys seem to know more than I do about guns.

I understand if you lose a magazine while hunting you could lose a chance at a prize trophy. However, losing one in battle could cause the loss of something more important?

Also, would it be wiser to use a revolver as a defense weapon? They don't have a magazine to lose. In a defensive situation, losing a magazine would.be more dire then losing one in a hunting rifle.
 
Bella,
Obviously some people have been burned by magazines falling out but our military isn't in any danger besides what they are already in. I'm sure they carry extra magazines.

Imagine this:
You're at deer camp or whatever big game animal and for some reason you pull your magazine and fill it with ammo. Since maybe you're going to drive to an area and walk in you just thrown the gun in a case and magazine in your pocket. Then do as the guys above suggested and lose it in the field. I hope that person is carrying extra ammo because now they have a single shot.

You're already fuming and then you go looking for a replacement magazine. I have an 1899 Remington Lee in 30-40 krag that I used for hunting last year. If the magazine is lost no replacement will be found for under $100 if found at all.

Now you're going off the rails.

A magazine for a 22lr might cost $20, Larger ones up to maybe $40 if in current production, If it's rare then oh well.

On the other hand if you have a hinged floorplate you won't lose anything. Or at least shouldn't.
 
Back to the topic.

Knightsofnee: thanks for trying to get us back on topic
Bricz75: I apologize for participating in the off-topic rants and am deleting my previous post.

Back to the original topic: I expect there will be sales on bolt actions several places. I believe many of the retailers have a long-running history of offering sales at retail and it looks like some of the manufacturers may be participating with rebates as well. Checking the Black Friday websites is a good place to look for upcoming sales; some provide the updates all the way through Christmas.
 
useless as teats on a boar hog,
Big misnomer if you know anything about hog breeding. The number of teats a boar has is indicative of the number of teats his female offspring will possess.
Select the boar with the most teats if you are interested in producing the most productive female offspring. :D

Concerning the sales, just received a Pre Black Friday sale flyer from Cabelas. It contains several popular bolt rifles at $100-150 discounts. Wonder what they will do for the real black Friday?:rolleyes:
 
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