safe to carry chambered?
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Chuck Graber
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The key to gun safety is muzzle control. Since every gun should be treated as if cocked and loaded, I don't see a problem with carrying it with a round chambered. The barrel should be pointed up at the sky or down at the ground before you. I really prefer pointing the barrels at the sky on a repeater as any shooter or hunter in view can glance at you and see the barrel pointing up and know that they are currently safe.
Ewok is right that the gun should be carried with the safety on.
Chuck Graber
Ewok is right that the gun should be carried with the safety on.
Chuck Graber
Tackleberry
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What type of safety??
I'm all for having the firearm "ready", but humour me for a moment will you? ...
Depending on what type of firearm thus safety you are carrying could be a factor.
There are many documented cases where the loaded firearm with the safety engaged, discharged. The two I can think of off the top of my head is the Remington 870. (don't get me wrong, great gun, love it, have one for many years now)
The Remington safety is strictly a "trigger block", thus enough rearward or even forward jaring can release the hammer. Look at a cross section of the trigger group and you will see the independent arm that would release the hammer.
With info like this you might like to, say, have the hammer down on an emty chamber. This would be safe for walk-about and brought into play by simple cycling of the action.
Just my $2 worth, which for most of you equates to $00.045 worth.
I'm all for having the firearm "ready", but humour me for a moment will you? ...
Depending on what type of firearm thus safety you are carrying could be a factor.
There are many documented cases where the loaded firearm with the safety engaged, discharged. The two I can think of off the top of my head is the Remington 870. (don't get me wrong, great gun, love it, have one for many years now)
The Remington safety is strictly a "trigger block", thus enough rearward or even forward jaring can release the hammer. Look at a cross section of the trigger group and you will see the independent arm that would release the hammer.
With info like this you might like to, say, have the hammer down on an emty chamber. This would be safe for walk-about and brought into play by simple cycling of the action.
Just my $2 worth, which for most of you equates to $00.045 worth.
hitnthexring
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I wouldn't carry any pump or auto shotgun with a chambered round, except the new Mossberg DA.
Yes....
Observe all safety rules. This is NOT negotiable.
Like most instructors, I've some war stories about massive stupidity on the line. The common thread through all those stories is how a kindly,grey haired instructor turns into a raving SOB in a faster than Clark Kent in a phone booth.
There's good reason for my choler. Gunshot wounds are irreversible.
Observe all safety rules. This is NOT negotiable.
Like most instructors, I've some war stories about massive stupidity on the line. The common thread through all those stories is how a kindly,grey haired instructor turns into a raving SOB in a faster than Clark Kent in a phone booth.
There's good reason for my choler. Gunshot wounds are irreversible.
Anything mechanical can "malfunction," big reasons why the Big Four safety rules. However, due to liability issues, most firearms are "over-designed" so as not to discharge when dropped, etc.
Even the "unloaded gun" has killed. I suspect that it was the fault of the owner, not the firearm.
Caryy the thing loaded in the chamber, finger always off the trigger/safety on until ready to fire, watch yer step .... & that muzzle.
Even the "unloaded gun" has killed. I suspect that it was the fault of the owner, not the firearm.
Caryy the thing loaded in the chamber, finger always off the trigger/safety on until ready to fire, watch yer step .... & that muzzle.
Tackleberry
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sy2k, check out my earlier post...
I didn't get into it, above but there are incidents that have had Remingtons AD with the safety engaged.
Two that come to mind,
1/ Hunter attempts to "club"wounded bird laying in the boat. The handle of the club was the barrel of the 870 12ga. discharged in to lower abdomine.
2/ Police Sgt. hushes to get back into his car when the guy they had stopped decided to drive off. Sgt. with loaded 870, 00BK, safety on, tosses the SG across the front seat as he leaps into the driver's seat. muzzle strikes the passenger door and discharges remodeling the door.
If I had examples of other manufacturers I'd gladly provide them too.
I didn't get into it, above but there are incidents that have had Remingtons AD with the safety engaged.
Two that come to mind,
1/ Hunter attempts to "club"wounded bird laying in the boat. The handle of the club was the barrel of the 870 12ga. discharged in to lower abdomine.
2/ Police Sgt. hushes to get back into his car when the guy they had stopped decided to drive off. Sgt. with loaded 870, 00BK, safety on, tosses the SG across the front seat as he leaps into the driver's seat. muzzle strikes the passenger door and discharges remodeling the door.
If I had examples of other manufacturers I'd gladly provide them too.
I think this may help. Shotguns are generally not regarded as drop-safe -- i.e., most of them do not have firing pin safeties. Thus most people advise carrying the shogun in cruiser ready (chamber empty).
Therefore, if you're just trucking around in the woods, you probably don't need to return lead ultra-fast, so you may want to consider carrying your gun cruiser-ready. However, that said, proper observance of the four rules will always do you right.
Justin
Therefore, if you're just trucking around in the woods, you probably don't need to return lead ultra-fast, so you may want to consider carrying your gun cruiser-ready. However, that said, proper observance of the four rules will always do you right.
Justin