safe rounds for early cz 27

[weird weapons]

I was reading articles about .32 acp rounds. Apparently what people seem to be concerned about is penetration and named some "hot" rounds made by buffalo bore or Fiocchi (spelling). Some people were thinking about firing an early production model CZ 27 that appears to be sound but as far as is know it has not been fired since wwII. My question is will that platform be able to safely handle the hottest modern commercial rounds or if not what grain amount would you say is the upper level of safety?

 

[Limnophile]

My understanding is Europeans load .32 Auto hotter than we do in the States. My limited purchases of the ammo confirm this, but I do not know if that was true in 1927.

I would steer clear of Buffalo Bore +P ammo. It is not needed, as even US .32 Auto FMJs will provide adequate penetration. I'd avoid JHPs in this caliber, as they do not reliably expand, and the ones that do do not adequately penetrate. Penetration trumps expansion; if you can't get deep enough to tickle the vitals, you're not going to cause a physiological stop.

 

[gyvel]

CZ 27s are very stout, well-built pistols, but as the previous poster said, there is no need to be shooting +p ammo in it.

Also, I've found that CZ 27s usually have chambers cut toward the minimum specs for .32 ACP.

 

[skizzums]

being a bolw-back, i wouldn't want to beat it up too much with super hgh loads, just my opinion. your not likely to blow up your nazi cop gun, especially since it's blowback, but you could cause some breakage of other parts, including the slide, if your readily feed it super horsepower ammo. if your talking the a couple boxes of stout stuff for SD/HD and a little practice, i don't think you'd hurt it. Hornady and Speer both make a very good round, the XTP and Gold-Dot, in 60gr and i would just stick with those. As for range ammo, your standard target loads arent going to be an issue, whether it be Winchester White Box or even Fiocchi. The weight(gr) of bullet is not the concern, as any weight can be loaded to a high pressure, obviously be wary of +P or ultra high velocity rounds, again little use of these wouldn't concern me much, these aren't pot-metal pistols.

 

[James K]

I confess that I was unaware that there was some kind of super +P+P+P+P++++ ammo for the .32 ACP. If there is, stick to the standard stuff and you should be OK. The major breakage on the CZ 27 is at the bottom of the grip where the fragile plastic is often broken.

Jim

 

[Cheapshooter]

Any ammo from a reputable, name brand like Winchester, Remington, Speer, Hornady, or CCI/Blazer will be fine. I would think the European ammo like S&P, and Privi wouldn't hurt either. Stay away from the "boutique" companies that use the +P as advertising hype to lure in people who think they can make a magnum out of anything if they run overloaded, hotter than SAAMI standard pressure ammo. There are 4 legitimate +P rounds. 32 ACP is NOT one of them

 

[44 AMP]

You could call Buffalo Bore, or whoever and ask them, but no matter what they say, its your gun, your hands and eyes and your responsibility in the end.

Pre WWII designs are pretty stout little beasts, compared to the micro mini .32s on the market today. BUT they are also old guns, never built nor designed for a high round count, or for hot loads.

I've got a WaA Pruf Mauser HSc. Its a brick, compared to todays pocket .32s. But its not a Panzer, its still a blowback gun, built to run on one kind of ammo.

Use what the gun was built for, if you need more, get a different gun. Standard ammo from any of the major makers should be fine in your old Cz.

HP ammo might not feed. Avoid anything marketed as +p or above.

 

[nymikel64]

The CZ 27 is an a european build,stout and well constructed all steel pistol and perfectly safe to shoot with any european ammunition like Fiocchi, Geco or Sellier and Bellot.
These loads always were and still are loaded a little bit hotter than US ammo, but not to the extend that it would hurt the Pistol.They usually give 900 to 950,sommetimes even a couple feet more out of Pistols like the CZ/Walther PP etc-- (with a 71 to 73 grain bullet) opposed to the 800 to 850 fps of the comparable US ammo.Probably one of the reasons the .32 acp or 7,65mm was so long in use with almost every european police till the mid 70th.
Hollow points may or may not function, the Pistol itself is designed for fmj as there was no hollowpoint ammo at that time.
Actually the Pistol might even perform best with one of the hotter European loads because springs etc were set for this ammo.
If it works fine with Us fmj it would be an option to use this for practice to prolong the lifespan of the Pistol- not because there is any weakness in the pistol but the fact is that all these Pistols were not build to have 10th of thousands Round shot through it.
Like mentioned,.32/.380 blowback Pistols like the CZs,Walther, Mauser
Beretta etc. were build at a time when service pistols saw seldome more than 5000 rounds during their estimated lifespan in police use.
(That does not mean that they wouldn´t be able to take more).
If that CZ is in good shape I wouldn´t worry and stuff it with what ever it shoots reliably,- too I would prefer fmj in this small caliber to ensure enough penetration.
Buffalo Bore might be hotter than all of the mentioned loadings but I have no experience with it(Unavailable in germany/europe) and I see no reason to use it, as the penetration of the eurpean ammo and even the penetration of the usual US fmj ammo in this caliber is in general plenty.)