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Yellowfin

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My wife and I are working around a small snag with daily carry for her, possibly for me too if I start a job where she is. Her job has her park on federal property where she can't have a firearm in her car, but once off location which she is very often for the workday it would be good for her to have it with her. So a simple workaround appears to be to have a place to drop off and pick up. I'm thinking a bank safe deposit box would be ideal for this, simply having her sidearm in a discreet looking case about the size of a phone book, maybe leather so it looks more like a ledger, which wouldn't attract any attention bringing it in and out. Simply unholster, unload, and put back in the box and drop off at the bank which is a block away when going back onto federal property, then pick up and do the opposite when back out. It would add maybe 5 minutes to the daily routine.

Anyone here have this kind of arrangement? I've read here and elsewhere about having NFA items like silencers in safe deposit boxes for storage when out of state. What does it cost to have a safe deposit box for such use?
 
5 minutes?

I've never had a Safe Deposit Box, but I would expect only the manager and asst manager have keys to the room to let you in, and who knows what their schedule is like every day.

I'd bet on up to half an hour some days.

That's a LOT of attention to attract, too. Going into the safety deposit room of a bank, every day, before and after your job at a federal building.

Probably draw inquiries from work and from suspicious eyes.

My vote is for a car-installed safe if legal to leave a firearm in federal parking lot.
 
5 minutes some days...30 minutes others and everywhere in between. especially the unroutine days where she or you may be in a hurry, nobody at the bank will be.

And this is times two, drop off and pick up.
 
I agree that in-and-out of a bank in 5 minutes is wishful thinking!

One thing you might consider is one of these places like the UPS Store or one of those businesses that rent mail boxes. Unlike a safe deposit box, going to check your mail every day is not likely to raise suspicion. The only possible down side is that the employees also have access to your mail box although they shouldn't be getting in there. Another advantage over a bank is that some of these places have access to the mailboxes 24/7 even though the business itself is closed. As we all know, banks are notorious for closing on every conceivable holiday possible and if your wife's work doesn't coincide with the bank schedule, then she is stuck without her gun until the next business day. The same holds true if she were ever to stay at work until 5:01 then she would have to be without the gun as well.

Scott
 
The only possible down side is that the employees also have access to your mail box although they shouldn't be getting in there.
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Um, yes they should, they have to put the mail into the box. Really bad idea to use one as a storage box.

That said I really don't have a good option except a safe in your car and parking on the street close by and walking.
 
How about the courthouse ? In California one has to checkin ones firearm when entering a courthouse, then pick it up when you leave. Drop it off, go to work, return after work and check it out. A plus, is it is being guarded by security officers while it is not in your possession.
 
Interesting idea. I'll have to ask about that since I have to go to the courthouse for the next step of the license.
 
Most banks have some kind of rules against storing firearms in safe deposit boxes. I know a lot of people who do it anyway, but doing so means you cant make a claim for insurance if the bank is robbed or burns down.

Ive also seen some banks who have the really cool finger print & key code set up so you can get to your box more easily, but they are fairly few and far between for now. However, if you happen to have one nearby, that will reduce the amount of time pretty significantly.

What kind of federal property are we talking about? I know military bases are fed property, and you arent allowed to carry, but you are allowed to have a weapon and ammo cased/safed in the back of the car, so long as they are seperated and not withing reach of the driver.
 
"Her job has her park on federal property where she can't have a firearm in her car, but once off location which she is very often for the workday it would be good for her to have it with her."

Perhaps her supervisor would allow her to park just outside the federal property if they knew how important it was to her/her continuing to do her usual great job? Then she could use some kind of carsafe.
 
She has to go past a posted 18 USC 930 sign in order to be prosecuted for possession of a weapon. Where is the 18 USC 930 sign posted in her parking area? For instance if it is a Federal building, only the entrance to the building may be posted. If the parking lot isn't posted, I would say she would be just fine to discreetly leave the gun in the car.
 
"Most banks have some kind of rules against storing firearms in safe deposit boxes. I know a lot of people who do it anyway, but doing so means you cant make a claim for insurance if the bank is robbed or burns down."

If you're referring to FDIC claims if the bank is robbed or burns down, she wouldn't be able to make a claim anyway. Safe deposit boxes and their contents are not covered by FDIC, no matter the contents or bank policy, IIRC.
 
I have to go with the car safe and don't say anything. Is it a fenced in lot with security, if so your car should be the absolute number 1 safe place to stow your gun without having to worry about car theft or vandalism and burglary.
 
18 USC 930 actually only references "buildings or parts thereof", saying nothing about the parking area or surrounding property. Maybe it's legal to keep a handgun in your vehicle after all; it does appear to be a gray area at the very least.
 
If the Federal facility is a building with a public assessable parking lot you would probably be safe locking the gun in the car. If you have to enter a gate with a sign posted saying no weapons (like my facility). You can face significant disciplinary action if caught with one in your car. You would have to check with security to see if they would allow you to check a weapon at the gate. My son's college does allow students to check weapons with the campus security office while they are on campus. My facility also has a public lot outside the gate for those who do not wish to bring cars onto the facility. Mostly people who have had their facility driving privileges suspended but there may be a few gun holders as well. I do not know if a gun locked in the trunk that is unloaded and in a case would be OK, I would assume not unless I checked with security first. In my state an unloaded cased gun in the trunk is only legal if you are going to or from hunting, to or from the gun shop or repair shop or place of sale or to or from a range, without a CPP.

A UPS store would be a really bad place to store a gun, lots of people have access to the boxes and the employees may get a might suspicious of someone putting something back in their box a few times a day. If someone was doing that I would think "drug stash" myself. i would probably think the same about a safe deposit box.
 
The property itself is posted explicitly no firearms. However, I think we can look around the facility to see the nearest place just outside the gate. Better still she has a specific vehicle she uses for during hours work, so she could perhaps park her car just outside the gate, pull the work car up to it, grab the package, then get out and park her car inside the gate then walk back to the work car.

Aha!!! Solution. Thanks guys! :D
 
It sounds like you don't have a safe deposit box yet. At my bank you have to wait for the manager and sign-in every time you visit the box.

Although the box isn't a solution to this problem you should still consider getting one to store the originals copies of all your important legal documents. We rented one and I made copies of: insurance policies, marriage license, birth certificates, Social Security cards, bank statements (so there is a record of account numbers), mortgage papers, vehicle titles, along with some other stuff. It's also a good place to keep your firearm receipts, list of serial numbers and pictures of the guns with the serial numbers visible (a cd with the pictures burned will work fine). I put all the originals in the safe deposit box and keep the copies at home. 9 times out of 10 when those documents are needed a copy is required and a copy of a copy is as good as a copy of the original. For the $30 or so a year it costs for the box it's good piece of mind.
 
If the off-facility runs are official buisness she may still not be able to carry, especially in a Gov. vehicle. You may want to check on this before starting. I am not saying she can't just that I would make sure first.
 
Azzred:
've never had a Safe Deposit Box, but I would expect only the manager and asst manager have keys to the room to let you in, and who knows what their schedule is like every day.
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So, you're obviously posting on a subject about which you know little-to-nothing, right? :cool: I have used bank safe deposit boxes. No hassle at all.
 
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