Safe bullets?

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w_houle

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I was hanging around the outside of the PX and was looking through some of the stuff that the venders had. I ran across this package for $25: It was two 9mm bullets. The bullet was a piece of plastic with an aluminium rod in the center, and the brass had a very heavy cannelure to prevent bullet setback. The guy running the stand said it was a safety round. It's suppoedly only powered by the primer. You keep this bullet in the chamber; and when a kid plays with you gun, and pulls the trigger: I goes off with a bang, and scares the crap out of the kid with nobody getting hurt. What kind of ignorant crap is this? Anyone heard of this before?
 
That is really stupid and a law suit waiting to happen. Even the primer can drive a pebble or anything else the kid might jam into the barrel at lethal velocity. Note that .22 CCB rounds are (rim fire) primer driven.

And even if the bullet is designed to prevent this, failures happen and the gas has to go somewhere. We should putting more effort into safety training our kids or putting extremely secure locks on them.
 
This is an incredibly stupid idea, if you ask me. Although there are several ways that this is a stupid idea, as I see it the fatal one is this:

Little junior gets daddy's gun and starts playing with it. (never mind that this alone is fatally stupid -- why did daddy leave it out for junior to play with? where is the supervision? responsible adult? WHAT responsible adult???) Anyway, junior manages to set it off. Bang. Scares junior. But -- nothing much happens much more than a glorified cap gun. Ah, but junior knows all about cap guns. He's got one, and so does the kid down the street. Hmm, must be daddy's cap gun. Daddy later removes said "safety bullet" (scare quotes intentional) and replaces it with a REAL round. Junior, thinking that this is daddy's cap gun, decides to have a bit more fun. BANG for real this time.

Again -- this is a FATALLY stupid idea.
 
Two for 25$? That is stupid just based on the price. If someone makes 9MM blanks, I bet they cost less than that. Of course we know that blanks are not safe at very close distances, but I wonder what is the guarantee that those things cannot malfunction? Sounds like another worthless idea but profitable if you can sell a handful of them. Maybe they would be OK in a starter pistol but even that price is too high.
 
Was there any labeling on the package to say all that or was your only source of information "the guy?" Likely BS from the ignorant.

There IS such a thing as a safety cartridge that when snapped on will spring launch a plunger down the barrel so that it cannot be ejected from an auto or the cylinder opened on a revolver. Takes a rod down the muzzle to reset it. I think the idea is that you leave that in the gun for the kid or thief to trip and disable the gun. But you are in the know and can still ready the gun by racking it out un-triggered and firing the next live round.
 
Jim, you did a lot better of a job explaining what that round does. Your explanation makes a lot more sense, and also explains the plastic rod that was in the package. I didn't buy the original explanation, but decided to pass along what I was told. Does anyone remember the actor who killed himself with a blank? I know it was more than just a primer, but as someone has already said: A .22 CB is just a small chunk of metal with a primer that I would not want to be shot with at point blank.
 
Brandon Lee was killed by a chain of retarded events: Bullets on primed brass in a gun and someone pulling the trigger (pop) someone looking at the bullets; finding one lead missing and deciding it wasn't worth mentioning. A live pic shoot that required Brandon Lee get in front of a gun loaded vith very hot blanks (for extra flash). Hot blank + bullet lodged in barrel= Brandon Lee shot!
 
The round described sounds more like the German 9mm kptr /m39 machine gun training round. It has the plastic bullet and metal pellet or rod down the center, was on stipper clips and was used in firearms training in Germany in the 80s and 90's. These rounds were not powered by a primer they had a full powder load and the metal pellet was found to punch 1A vests :eek: Were these rounds in a small blue box with "Far endast anvandas i vapen med losskjutningspipa utan..." in German in it?
 
I cannot fathom the stupidity of deliberately loading a pistol with a squib round. Are you ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you will remember to rack the slide in the moment of extremity? If you don't remember, then you will hold the functional equivalent of a rock in your hand (and an interesting look on your face, no doubt).

The proper approach to dealing with a bad guy or kid who has your firearm is not to allow either to possess it in the first place!
 
Nothing comes out of the barrel. The point of this ammo was to disable the gun if fired. Surely one of the most useless pieces of gun related turds you are likely to find.
Dallas Jack
 
So, what's to keep a kid or a burglar from cycling the action first & then firing?

What's to keep you from forgetting about it in the heat and panic of a break in and disabling your only weapon?

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