.wheelgunner.
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I heard there were some problems with the Springfield Armory M1s that were made in the 90s/2000.
Anyone?
Anyone?
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SA M1?
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Ridge_Runner_5
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I've heard that, too. But mine is 2004 vintage, and shoots MOA at a hundred yards with the factory irons. I'm an awful shooter, and it's plenty accurate from a bench.
theyallhurt
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Totally ironic, but I was at the range with my buddy and his new c2000 SA M-1. Too funny, but anyway the rifle functioned flawlessly shooting bowling pins at 100 yds. He was worried as well, having heard the same thing, but neither of us could see any problems whatsoever. Could be just a few that snuck past quality control that caused the rumor mill churning?
I've owned several and still own/shoot 3 at different events or hunting and have had no issues other than my desire to upgrade with oversize controls and add shims to my gas cylinders. I believe what folks hear is from the very few that have real world problems with their rifle which Springfield will repair for a lifetime. What i always try to focus on is the millions of satisfied customers that you hardly ever hear from.
Crow Hunter
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M1 (as in Garand)
or M1A (as in M14 clone)?
The problem with the M1A is that there are only a finite number of surplus USGI M14 parts available. As they run out, Springfield Armory has to create new parts.
They DON'T use the same manufacturing methods as USGI. Some parts, this isn't a problem. Others, it can be.
Pretty much it is the luck of the draw as to how many USGI parts the rifle has. Generally, the older the more likely you will have more USGI parts. One I bought in 1997 had everything USGI except for the receiver. It even had a TRW Bolt and a REALLY NICE TRW trigger. One of the recent ones that my brother bought had NO USGI parts other than the gas system.
My brother owns 4 of them. 1 of them kept breaking parts in the trigger group. SA finally just sent him a HRA trigger group, and he hasn't had any other problems.
or M1A (as in M14 clone)?
The problem with the M1A is that there are only a finite number of surplus USGI M14 parts available. As they run out, Springfield Armory has to create new parts.
They DON'T use the same manufacturing methods as USGI. Some parts, this isn't a problem. Others, it can be.
Pretty much it is the luck of the draw as to how many USGI parts the rifle has. Generally, the older the more likely you will have more USGI parts. One I bought in 1997 had everything USGI except for the receiver. It even had a TRW Bolt and a REALLY NICE TRW trigger. One of the recent ones that my brother bought had NO USGI parts other than the gas system.
My brother owns 4 of them. 1 of them kept breaking parts in the trigger group. SA finally just sent him a HRA trigger group, and he hasn't had any other problems.
.wheelgunner.
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One source:
Another:
There were plenty of QC problems. The guns were made using a cast receiver with a new barrel and new wood.
The rest of the parts were USED USGI that were refinished. Apparently these parts were not checked for wear before they were refinished and put on a rifle.
So many of these rifles would not function out of the box because of these worn out parts.
I have personally seen several that were screwed up. Some did not even work after two trips back to the factory. Do not buy one you can't test fire.
Another:
What I have seen myself with some of these - some!
Spitting op rods off due to the combination of surplus rods and out of spec take down relief cuts on the receiver.
Bad rear sight mounting.
Poorly/incorrectly indexed barrel to the receiver.
Very worn trigger assembly components.
One had the rear of the receiver broken right off from the bolt tail striking the inside beyond what the receiver could tolerate - hell of a wake up for the shooter, that.