S+W PPK/S assembly help?

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jaybo9

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I took the handgrips off to clean, I think I messed up.
after cleaning the frame, I picked up the slide and stuck to it through magnetism, was a small (brass?) pin bent in half, with a slight bend on one end. I cannot tell where it belongs or if it even belongs to my weapon.

I know, I should have left the grips alone, lesson learned.
 
I don't think this belongs to your PPK/s.

Unless S&W has made a design change there should be no brass colored steel parts inside.

It can't be solid brass, since brass is non-magnetic.

Don't be put off by this.
There's no reason why you can't remove the grips on a PP series pistol for cleaning.
There's nothing loose that will fall out, and in fact, removing the grips is how the lock work is intended to be cleaned.
 
Thanks, it seems to dry fire ok but have worked a mag of FMJ through it and ejection is ok but it is jamming on reload. When firing ityesterday, the slide stopped about 1/4 in. from firing position, not every round, sometimes two in a row, sometimes firing several, then jamming. I have factory mags and aftermarket mags and this happened on both.
I have read several archive threads on this and it seems to be common. Anything I can do?
 
First off, how many rounds do you have through it.
Possibly, it just needs to be fired enough to break it in.

Second, try a different brand/type of ammo. Maybe this gun just doesn't "like" the ammo you're using.

On magazines, everybody agrees: Use factory magazines ONLY. After market are almost always trouble.

If after you've tried different ammo, and shot at least 200 rounds it's still jamming, cut to the chase and return it to the factory for a "fix".
 
I had mine apart many times and never saw the part you talked about

But for the feeding problem, I am sorry to say that if you have that problem its probably your bad day. The one I had S&W built about 5 years ago and picked it up new. The first couple of boxes only failed to feed every now and then, once I got past couple of hundred rounds it turned into a piece of crap.
I was told to shot more rounds through it and it would clean its self up, no luck. Sent it back to Smith and they pollished the feed ramp, NO LUCK.
Had a good gun smith that has built a couple of guns for me NO LUCK.
ANd he really worked on it.
I know it wasnt the mags, My mags worked fine in a german one.
At 600 rounds it was just about 1 every mag fail to feed. This was with good Whinchester hard ball. I picked up 1000 rounds to last me the life of the gun.
I liked the way it carried and the size was great.
BUt it was a piece of crap.
There are a lot of people here that say that the S&W PPKs is a great gun, and I am sure that there are some out there, but if I found them for $100 dollars each, as long as I carried them, I would go gunless.
I will also say here and now that I am a Smith fan, and have 11 N frames and a mod60, which I got rid of the ppks and picked it up, I would suggest you do the same.
Personaly I am tired of hearing about firing a gun to break it in. Sure you need to test a gun by breaking it in making sure its reliable, this is where the PPKs fell on its face. I had a Mauser 380 that fired with no failures new in the box. Had a Back Up new in the box, and thats a cheep gun no failures new in the box.
Good luck.
 
Jabo9,
I don't know if this will solve your problem or not, but it could be the spring for the ejector. This would only be the case if you took the slide off of the frame which will expose the ejector. It comes out pretty easy, and there is a very small "V" shaped spring that has a small hump on one of the "V" legs. Spring fits into a groove in the frame while the other "straight" side of the spring fits into the groove in the ejector part. Again, this cannot come out unless you removed the slide from the frame. If this is not the spring, then I don't know what it might be. It could explain why you are experiencing failure to eject shell casings.
 
On the PP guns, the ejector also acts as the slide stop (hold open). The little "V" spring keeps the ejector down until it is raised by the follower when the magazine is empty.

So to put it back in, ease the ejector out a bit, insert the straight side of the spring in the slot in its top with the point of the "V" of the spring toward the muzzle. Then slip the ejector back in, pushing the top of the spring down until it slips under the edge of the frame. It is easier to do than to describe.

Jim
 
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