I read in Gunworld or some magazine an article about S&W's new 357 magnums made partially from Scandium, a rare lightweight metal. A couple of these guns only weigh slightly over 11 ounces. I wonder how hard these babies would be hang on to shooting with standard Federal 125 gr. ammo?
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S&W new lightweight 357's?
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Hopefully no one will ever know. let them rot on the shelves.
It will definatly have more kick then your standard steel frame, very close to titanium.
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It will definatly have more kick then your standard steel frame, very close to titanium.
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I wouldn't mind a little compact 5-shooter. Once you get to the 6 - 7 shot revolvers, they're thick enough that you might as well be carrying a semi-auto. If you like it, then go get it. In contrast to Leedesert, I guess I'm in the OTHER camp. We don't need S&W going out of business... but try and buy a pre-agreement if you can.
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Robert Foote
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I had a standard configuration derringer in .357 back in the early 60s, which probably weighed more than the new 'scandium' S&Ws you mention. Looking back I am amazed it didn't blow up. I still remember the sensation of pain when it fired, though. It now lives on my wall in a shadow box--haven't fired it in over 30 years.
I have fired a LOT of .357/125s in K frames, had a M60 3" FL which probably weighed around 28 oz. for a while. The M60 was manageable, but just. Would probably still have it but after 2 trips back to the factory the DA was still lousy (went back to my original M60 3" FL in .38 Spl, sold the .357).
I don't think you could pay me enough to fire an 11 oz. .357. But then I'm not as macho as I used to be.
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I have fired a LOT of .357/125s in K frames, had a M60 3" FL which probably weighed around 28 oz. for a while. The M60 was manageable, but just. Would probably still have it but after 2 trips back to the factory the DA was still lousy (went back to my original M60 3" FL in .38 Spl, sold the .357).
I don't think you could pay me enough to fire an 11 oz. .357. But then I'm not as macho as I used to be.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by leedesert:
Hopefully no one will ever know. let them rot on the shelves.
It will definatly have more kick then your standard steel frame, very close to titanium.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Let them, Slick & Willy, and Ed Shultz rot in Hell!!!!!
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Hopefully no one will ever know. let them rot on the shelves.
It will definatly have more kick then your standard steel frame, very close to titanium.
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I agree wholeheartedly. Let them, Slick & Willy, and Ed Shultz rot in Hell!!!!!
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Yeah, I got a permit to carry,it's called the friggin Constitution.---Ted Nugent
"Glock 26: 17 rounds of concealed carry DEATH comming your way from out of nowhere!!! THAT'S FIREPOWER, BABY!!!"
I hate to change the topic...but I just fired a Kahr P9 again. It is under 10oz unloaded, flatter than a 5-shot .38 and it DOESN't KICK. I fired about 200 rounds, incl. 50+JHPs and my hands were not hurt...I then did some target shooting with .22s The trigger of the Kahr is buttery smooth and accuracy is nice, too: one 1,5" hole at 25 feet. By contrast, the Taurus 85UL which weighs almost as much and is thicker, kicks more severely and isn't quite as accurate even in SA mode.
Seems to me that S&W lightweights aren't necesserily the best tools for CCW: I played with one today and the trigger pull was reminiscent of an AMT Backup...20 pounds or more! Further, the quality of the finish seemed very spotty.
Seems to me that S&W lightweights aren't necesserily the best tools for CCW: I played with one today and the trigger pull was reminiscent of an AMT Backup...20 pounds or more! Further, the quality of the finish seemed very spotty.
Hey...I just read that article not 5 hours ago! That brings up my question...in your opinion, what is the lightest .357 that is reasonble, assuming we are talking about snubnose? We've seen the 23-25 oz. SW J-frames, the Ruger 25 oz. SP-101, and next the ~20 oz. Taurus. For some reason, it seems to me that 18-20 oz. is my minimum. 11oz? Must be painful...but if it saved your life, I guess you wouldn't care.
Leaving aside for the moment S&W's apparent contempt for the civil rights of its customers, I think the quality of its revolvers is questionable nowadays. So, even if S&W had a pro-gun ownership and management, and its revolvers were made of platinum, they still wouldn't be worth buying if the barrels are canted on the frames, the triggers are rough, the grips fit poorly, etc. Not all S&Ws are as bad as this, but too many of them are.
To me, the bottom line is that S&W's quality control is lagging behind its engineers, who are lagging behind its metallurgists, who are lagging way, way behind its corporate ethics and sense of citizenship, if any.
Just my $0.02.
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To me, the bottom line is that S&W's quality control is lagging behind its engineers, who are lagging behind its metallurgists, who are lagging way, way behind its corporate ethics and sense of citizenship, if any.
Just my $0.02.
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