S & W Model 15 k frame.

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Coyote_Buster700

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My buddy bought one of these old K frames from some guy for $100. It shoots good. But when you cock the hammer to single action it, the trigger is so light a stiff wind sets it off. Is this normal? Double action has a normal amount of pull.
 
Not normal, its either worn or had some bad hom gunsmithing. I have several Smith K-Frames and they all have fantastic creep free and light but safe single action trigger pulls.

Mike
 
I'd say take it apart- after consulting some appropriate manuals!- and check the hammer and trigger for signs of monkeying, such as file marks.

Does the revolver push off? IOW if you cock it, point it in a safe direction- preferably unloaded!- and push forwards on the hammer spur with firm but not excessive thumb pressure, will the hammer snap forward? Most S&Ws that exhibit this behavior have been monkeyed; it's rare for one to slip through factory QA/QC like this.

If they've been modified, replacements can be sourced from GB and numerous other sources. FWIW contrary to popular belief, hammers and triggers from recent-production (appx. 1950s and later) S&W revolvers are often interchangeable and frequently work OK without any hand fitment. That said, there's no guarantee they will work right out of the box, and gunsmith fitment may be required.
 
We were shooting the other day and when I cocked it, it went off just from my finger being on the trigger. I'm glad its not mine. lol But I'll have him get it looked at.
 
My model 15 has a very light SA trigger...when I shoot it single action, I don't lay my finger on it till I am aiming and ready to shoot...and I like it like that. It is a revolver I just can't miss with.
 
coyote buster 700:

Sounds like your revolver needs to go back to Smith for repair. Smith's warranty is life on the gun not the individual's life.

Semper Fi.

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Clifford L. Hughes
USMC Retired
 
If the SA trigger's this hair-like because of a lightened action, I'd expect the gun to be having reliability issues when shooting double action.

If the DA trigger feels normal, and the gun has no trouble shooting any ammo it's fed, I'd suspect the SA/trigger engagement is worn. The edge on the trigger that constitutes the SA sear is nearly microscopic, and it wouldn't take much to ruin it. Those doing action jobs are well-advised to leave the SA sear alone.

I bought a M66 that had a very light action, and the original hammer. The SA was spooky-light. Not a problem, since I shoot double action almost exclusively. And certainly not a problem once I bobbed the hammer & rendered it DAO, like many of my other revos. ;)
 
How light it is may be relative to what you are used to.

With the gun unloaded...(look again...once more)...and pointed in a safe direction, cock the hammer. With firm, not hard pressure, push on the back of the hammer. if it falls, it is unsafe. The condition is refered to as "push off". If you can push on it with moderate pressure, and it remains cocked, its working properly.

The single action can vary from moderate to "holy crap, did that thing just go off?" And, still be within specs.

Its actually a pretty easy fix, but, best left to a competant S&W armorer or the factory.
 
Smith's warranty is life on the gun not the individual's life.
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The Lifetime Service Policy is a relatively recent policy change and does not retroactively extend to all historic S&W models- far from it, in fact.

That said, S&W will still fix many older revolver models for free IF they have parts... but sometimes they don't. :( Call before you send it in. Make sure you have the dash number from inside the yoke cut; if you're not familiar with these, if it says "MOD 15-2", it's a dash-two. This tells the factory which parts may be required.

If S&W doesn't have parts anymore, many aftermarket sources still will, due to the abundant supply of retired police K frames. :)
 
How light it is may be relative to what you are used to.
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I own two Ruger single sixes (.357 mag and .22) and a Security six (.357 mag). So I'm accustomed to revolvers... It is way lighter than any of those thought about being. In the "holy crap did that go off?" category.

As for sending it in to have it worked on... like I said my buddy bought it from a guy (Shady McSketcherson), so he doesn't really know where it came from. I do not need to be told how stupid buying a gun that could have been acquired illegally, so save all that jazz please.
 
Not Normal

I carried a model 15 in the service and currently own a 2"version.
This condition is most definitely not normal.Send it to S&W.
I had a 65 with the same problem-the hammer had been replaced before I got it and it was a poor job and couldn't be repaired so I had a new hammer and sear installed-it is a little stiff on DA,but really nice on SA now.
The "cock and push"test is a good one-always be mindful of safety when doing it.
 
Sgt127 said:
How light it is may be relative to what you are used to.

With the gun unloaded...(look again...once more)...and pointed in a safe direction, cock the hammer. With firm, not hard pressure, push on the back of the hammer. if it falls, it is unsafe. The condition is refered to as "push off". If you can push on it with moderate pressure, and it remains cocked, its working properly.

The single action can vary from moderate to "holy crap, did that thing just go off?" And, still be within specs.

Its actually a pretty easy fix, but, best left to a competant S&W armorer or the factory.
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This!

It sounds like some previous owner worked on the action and over did the SA notch. This can be a easy fix by an experienced gun mechanic.
 
I don´t know if the revolver of this post have something wrong, but the three modelo 15 that I have owned had a very light single action. At least much lighter than models 10 or a 586 I have owned in the past too.

When I bught my first model 15 (a 15-4 with a wide trigger and hammer) I used to think an older owner had tunned the action. But when I buy some others models 15 I noted all of the have a very light action. And a friend´s of mine havea very light action too.

I don´t know if there is normal in all models 15 have a ligheter action, but I suspect that they have lighter actions than other S&W models.
 
All the M15's I have owned have been -2's or older. they all had the same typical S&W SA trigger, light and crisp, in the neighborhood of 2+/-lbs pull. This could be from the action being cycled many times or just better work at the factory. The newer S&W's I have handled seem to have just a trace of creep and a bit more pressure is needed to trip the sear.
 
Well when I was at his house yesterday I tried tried to set it off by pushing the hammer forward and it went off without having to push hard at all. So I seriously this is S&W having a crisp trigger lol.
 
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