Greetings all, I have been visiting this site for a while now and think its one of the best sites on the web. I have a line on a clean used mdl 29 with magnaported barrel and an action job for $400.00. The intended use for this revolver is hunting, and it will not be used for anything except full power 44 mag loads. I have it on good authority that this gun will be somewhat intense in the recoil department with Mr. Randy Garretts, 310 grain 44 mag ammunition. However I am still weighting it against finding a Ruger super blackhawk with 4 5/8 inch barrel and rounded trigger guard (I think this gun exists). At any rate does anyone here have any idea's regarding the relative durability of these two guns? I might tolerate the recoil if the general consensus was that the S&W mdl 29 would withstand years of fireing full power loads about as well as the Ruger. Any thoughts? MJF3
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S&W Mdl 29 VS Ruger Super Blackhawk
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What are you hunting? The conventional 240 grain type loads have always performed well for most game up to bear.
As for a choice, to any veteran shooter you are asking a parent to choose between two of their kids. Hard choice.
Having shot both they are as equal as one can get, however in the distant future the Ruger would probably experience less problems with heavy loads. The Ruger seems to be a hard horse, but the S&W is no slouch.
I would worry about the comfort of shooting and how the gun fit the hand to take some of the punishment out of it. That would be my first concern.
As for a choice, to any veteran shooter you are asking a parent to choose between two of their kids. Hard choice.
Having shot both they are as equal as one can get, however in the distant future the Ruger would probably experience less problems with heavy loads. The Ruger seems to be a hard horse, but the S&W is no slouch.
I would worry about the comfort of shooting and how the gun fit the hand to take some of the punishment out of it. That would be my first concern.
KY-Midnight
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I have a Ruger super blackhawk, and have found it to be very reliable, and nice to shoot. It's been around awhile. It has the "old" style trigger mechanics, which means I don't carry it on a loaded cyl. I have polished the trigger parts, have installed a vent rib and rubber grips. The gun shoots exceptionally well, and in the 32 odd years it's been hanging about, has never misbehaved in any way. I am most pleased with it, and would highly recommend one to anyone. The new ones, BTW, have a transfer bar in the trigger arrangment, which means you can carry it with all 6 ready to roll. (I guess you could carry all six in my old style too, if you were a risk taker)
And to head off anyone stating that I could get the new style trigger for free, I prefer the old style. SSL
And to head off anyone stating that I could get the new style trigger for free, I prefer the old style. SSL
Randy Garrett
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MJF3:
The S&Ws are fine guns, but they are no where nearly as durable or as recoil controlling as the various Rugers. The Super Blackhawk is okay in recoil, better than the S&W, but its squared trigger guard usually result in the shooter taking a painful pounding on the knuckle that sits behind the trigger guard. The better single-action is definitely the Bisley. It possesses the most controllable grip shape available for the heavy recoilers, and also has a rounded trigger guard that doesn't damage the knuckle.
If the subject is what to carry in the woods for hunting and defense, why not consider a shortened Ruger Super Redhawk. They are the most durable 44 Magnums out there, and offer advanced design with their pinned construction (screwless except for sights & grips), possession of a forward crane lockup, as well as a longer, thicker-walled cylinder capable of firing longer ammo such as our 330-gr +P LONG-HAMMERHEAD (1385-fps). Where recoil is concerned the Super Redhawk when firing our big 330-grainer (1385-fps), even with a 6-inch barrel, recoils less dramatically than the S&Ws or Super Blackhawks with our 310-grainer (1325-fps).
I'm a big believer in the Super Redhawks, we have three of them in the shop and collectively they've fired about 100,000 rounds. Not a one of them ever mal-functioned or produced a broken part. Any one of them delivers 2 to 2 and 1/2 inch groups at 50-yds, sometimes much better. They're the guns I trust the most.
Best regards, Randy Garrett
[This message has been edited by Randy Garrett (edited March 12, 2000).]
The S&Ws are fine guns, but they are no where nearly as durable or as recoil controlling as the various Rugers. The Super Blackhawk is okay in recoil, better than the S&W, but its squared trigger guard usually result in the shooter taking a painful pounding on the knuckle that sits behind the trigger guard. The better single-action is definitely the Bisley. It possesses the most controllable grip shape available for the heavy recoilers, and also has a rounded trigger guard that doesn't damage the knuckle.
If the subject is what to carry in the woods for hunting and defense, why not consider a shortened Ruger Super Redhawk. They are the most durable 44 Magnums out there, and offer advanced design with their pinned construction (screwless except for sights & grips), possession of a forward crane lockup, as well as a longer, thicker-walled cylinder capable of firing longer ammo such as our 330-gr +P LONG-HAMMERHEAD (1385-fps). Where recoil is concerned the Super Redhawk when firing our big 330-grainer (1385-fps), even with a 6-inch barrel, recoils less dramatically than the S&Ws or Super Blackhawks with our 310-grainer (1325-fps).
I'm a big believer in the Super Redhawks, we have three of them in the shop and collectively they've fired about 100,000 rounds. Not a one of them ever mal-functioned or produced a broken part. Any one of them delivers 2 to 2 and 1/2 inch groups at 50-yds, sometimes much better. They're the guns I trust the most.
Best regards, Randy Garrett
[This message has been edited by Randy Garrett (edited March 12, 2000).]
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