S&W M629 4" - Are the new ones any good?

Yanus

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Ok guys,
It's getting close to decision time. I'm
all set to buy a new revolver. I want either
a Taurus or Smith. I want either a 44spl or
44mag as I handload and cast my own bullets.
Here is your chance to praise one brand and/or bitch and complain. The piece has to
have maximum 4" barrel as I intend to carry
concealed at times. I want something that
will handle at least heavy 44spl handloads.
Le C'est Le Bon Temps Roulee!
(Let the good times roll!)

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Never do an enemy a minor injury. Machiavelli
"Stay alive with a 45"
 
I have had numerous 44 mags, including ruger and smith. For one reason or another they have come and gone but I still retain a S&W 629 Mountain Gun 4"bbl. If you intend on carry it might be a good choice as it is lighter than the regular versions but of course felt recoil is a little higher. Not enough to deter it from being a gun I would carry concealed however and it has been throughly reliable. Ruger's are great too but the ones I like tend to be either single action, not good for carry, or with enormous barrel lengths. Go for the smith with 44spl as self defense.
 
Yesterday I was looking at a new 4-inch 629. I have some reservations about the cast marks (as they seem to be) on the new style hammer and trigger. But the timing was fine, the barrel/cylinder gap was a reasonable .005, the SA trigger was good, the sights were clean, and the finish was acceptable. The DA trigger was rough, but I guess it'd smooth out.

I like the idea of a 629 Mountain Gun for concealed carry. When I tried it, the gun printed badly through my clothing, but this was not necessarily the fault of the gun itself. I believe my attempt would have been successful if I'd made some modifications to the carry package. Most of the problem was a holster that didn't hold the 629 close enough to my body. Also, part of the problem may have been the factory square-butt conversion stocks, which are kind of long and pointy for good concealment. With a better holster and round-butt stocks, I believe the 629 would be okay for concealed carry. Maybe I'll try it again one of these days.
 
I purchased a NIB 4" S&W 629 a few weeks ago and have put 200 handloads through it so far. I have to say that this gun is very accurate; a couple slow fire groups had 5 holes touching one another at 15 yards. Both the single and double action trigger pulls were very smooth right out of the box. The downside is that the fit and finish on this gun is only average. The cast line on the trigger is obvious and unsightly; the hammer appears to be mounted slightly off center in the frame as well, but no sign of actual binding, etc. the front sight is a red ramp style; mine came from the factory with a substantial burr on the right side that gave a disturbing sight picture. The roll marks are clear, but unevenly applied. In short, the 629 is just fine from a functional standpoint, but the finished product doesn't show much evidence of pride in workmanship on the part of the factory. I bought mine to pack on hiking and fishing trips in the Mt. Hood National forest; as a field gun the finish is fine I guess, but S&W used to produce weapons that qualified as Industrial Art; the new 629 doesn't cut it that department now.
 
Yanus, check out these comments reference to .44 magnum handguns by that .44 magnum expert(this guy KNOWS his .44s) I mentioned in your other thread:

"After 26 years and 400,000 rounds of full load .44 magnums (almost all
25gr. WW296, 250 grain H&G #503) here are my opinions:

If you want a gun that will go 50,000 rounds without ever breaking any
part whatsoever, the gun most likely to accomplish this will be the
Ruger Redhawk. The Dan Wesson may be as good; I have never broken
anything in one but my most-used DW has fewer than 10,000 rounds
through it.

The S&W M29 has the best out-of-the-box trigger, and will still have
the best trigger if you sent all choices to a good pistolsmith (my
choice for this would be Jim Clark Jr.)

At about 65-75,000 rounds, tool-steel Smiths will often get a hairline
crack in the bottom of the frame at the cylinder stop notch. By this
time you will have broken 3 or 4 trigger studs and maybe a hammer stud
if your gun was made after 1965. I have never broken any of these
parts on an older gun; that may be luck.

Avoid stainless 629s made before 1990 or so; at that time they were
much softer than either the tool steel guns or the stainless Rugers.
They have a noticeably worse DA pull, and hold up much less well than
the 29s. You can see this by the fact that ones which were carried a
lot are all scratchy-looking. Around 1990 S&W started making the 629
out of as different alloy, or heat-treating it differently, or
something.

Although I used to feel that Model 29s made in the first decade of
production were superior, I have lately had to eat my words. M29s and
629s that I have seen lately (meaning current production) all have
chamber throats that mike EXACTLY .429" and will shoot 2 1/2" at 100
yards off sandbags using good ammo, in my recent experience. Oversize
chamber throats (or differing chamber throats) are the most likely
source of mediocre accuracy, and Redhawks typically go .432".
(Caveat: I miked a bunch 6-8 years ago, none recently.) You can fix
this to some degree with bullet alloy/size/design, but not entirely
and it is a nuisance, IMO. The conventional wisdom is that lawyers
demand oversize barrels/cylinders for "safety" reasons; I think that
is crap. Manufacturers don't have enough irritated people like me
bitching at them. I believe Dan Wessons are very good, but in truth
I've not miked any because mine always shot very well.

20 years ago, one magazine article after another talked about how the
Super Blackhawk was stronger than the M29 because the cylinder walls
were thicker. Well...not quite. I bought the ballistics lab and
pressure gun from the now-defunct Super Vel ammo company and set it up
at Kent Lomont's house in '76. Testing both an (old model) SB and a
M29 to destruction came up with some interesting results. The SB let
go at 68,000 CUP and the Smith at 114,000. Rockwell tests of the
Smith cylinder (before shooting) were within 1 point of each other for
all six spots; the Ruger varied eleven points on the C scale,
depending on where it was tested.

Before you send me a nastygram, this was more than 20 years ago, it
was ONE gun of each make, and perhaps a fluke. However, over the
years I have seen a bunch of SBs with chambers/topstraps missing from
stupidity, and a grand total of ONE M29 with a jugged chamber. On the
other hand, as I said before, with 75,000 rounds of 40,000 CUP ammo, a
M29 will break some internal parts over the years and need to be sent
back to Springfield. An Old Model Super Blackhawk will fed the same
diet will break NOTHING except for shooting off the ejector rod
housing every time the screw crystallizes."

These are not my comments.....Dave
 
Many thanks, Dave. I'll also check out my
other thread.
Almost half a million rounds of full house
44mags!!!! Geez! That makes my hand ache
just thinking about it!!

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Never do an enemy a minor injury. Machiavelli
"Stay alive with a 45"
 
Dave,
I just ordered the M696 for $399 from
Valor. I'll let you know when I receive
it and have a chance to range test it.
I like the fact that it has adj. sights.
I actually hope that it will chamber 44mag,
but I will only use mid-range loads. I too,
have seen some revolvers with missing topstraps, blown cylinders, and bulged barrels. I have no intention of blowing my
hand off! Thanks for taking the time to
respond to my questions. I haven't owned
a Smith in over 20 years. I hope this one
is a keeper!

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Never do an enemy a minor injury. Machiavelli
"Stay alive with a 45"
 
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