S & W airweight malfunctions

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I can't believe it,

Went to the range today to test fire my Kel tec P11, P32, and titanium S & W .38 airweight. The Kel tecs were recently returned from the factory "fixed" and the
S & W was to be my new carry gun.

Relults- P11= 1/50 failure, not too bad I may be able to tune it. P32 = 3/50, hmm maybe I'll switch the ammo. Oh well, maybe I'll sell them- sucky trigger anyway.

Surely my new revolver would fare better? S & W shooting standard winchester .38 = 15/50 failures! Seems the airweight would turn the cylinder but not strike the primer if any tension was left on the trigger between shots. There are 2 clicks as you release the tension. After the first click the trigger is locked and cannot be depressed. If tension is held as the trigger moves past the second click it will then not strike the primer, but only spin the wheel. It takes a few times of fully and completely releaseing the trigger for it to start working again. This is a problem since I train to smoothly let off the tension until a "click" on my G19. On the S & W I have to exhuberantly let my finger return in order for it to strike the primer.

Anyone know whats going on? I have an old Ruger GP 100 that this has never happened on.

Regards,

Olazul
 
Even further proof that Ruger is better than S&W. :p

... but seriously, I hope you get the problems figured out. I'm at a total loss not being much of a revolver guy.

Ben

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[This message has been edited by Ben (edited March 19, 2000).]
 
Short stroking is a problem for many SA auto pistol shooters when they transition to a DA revolver. Short stroking a S&W should rotate the cylinder to the next chamber, BUT it should not take 'a few times of fully and completely releaseing the trigger for it to start working again.' It is suppose to work the next time you fully release and pull the trigger. Your pistol has a problem and it may be dirty or dry internally. By your post I would guess that you are not that familiar with revolvers so do not attempt to remove the side plate yourself. Take it to a gunsmith and have him open it and take a look at it.
 
Get rid of the Smith POS and buy the Ruger, or even a Taurus. Why you continue to own a gun made by traitors is beyond me. Sell it to a socialist "gun buy back program" or something.

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With revolvers the trigger must be completely released before pressing again. I have this problem with the reset also because I too want to release it only as far as I can "feel" the clicks.

Only solutions I can think of are
-Practice with all your carry guns until you can shoot them with no problem. This would maybe mean like a couple hundred dry fire clicks a day on each one.
-Shoot only one kind of handgun design so you will do the same thing every time. The hundreds of dry fire clicks each day wouldn't hurt, either. Nuts, 25 PERFECT dry fires a day helps in a big way.

...and contrary to common wisdom, revolvers CAN have malfs! It isn't specific to certain brands, either.

Edmund
 
I have two S&W j-frames and have not had such a problem, but 15/50 malfunctions is terrible! I would call S&W customer support and ask them what's going on.

A guy at a firearms training class mentioned that if they deem your weapon in need of service, they will send you an Airborne Express box, PRE-PAID, so you can send your gun back to them without any hassle. I am aware that AE just announced that they will not accept any more firearms for shipment so maybe S&W has an alternate shipper in mind (hopefully FedEX). I mention this so you might be able to save yourself $25 shipping.

HTH,

Justin
 
Try larger grips. My feelings is that to some extent, the short stroking (mentioned by our members above) can be induced by a poor grip and those J frames just aren't handfilling (yes, I know they're not suppose to be either).
 
Thanks for the info gang,

I was thinking, now what kind of a duba^%$ can mess up a revolver? I guess I answered my own question. Now that I know it's "weakness" I can get the function back on the first try after a nonfire(for lack of a better word).
I'm going to have to rethink it's use as a carry weapon though. That problem could be annoying at the wrong time.

thanks again!

Olazul
 
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