S&W 340PD(Sc) range report.

Commander Fan

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This was the order I mentioned in last week's "Titanium Internals?" post. Thanks again for your answers.

Having owned the 342PD(38+P) prior, I was already familiar to the revolver's appearance, but was surprised to see the safety lock feature in the area of the cylinder release. It's a .200" circular-shaped entity, that's mounted flush with the frame, and seems to match the titanium cross-pin's colors fairly well. This might be why I overlooked it during a recent test fire, or it could have ben a prototype, lacking the safety.

Of course, I could do without this feature myself, but the engagements seem very positive. Once I gain access to my hollow-ground screw-drivers I'll go inside, I just don't want to take the chance of messing up the side-plate screws with a tapered driver.

FWIW-With the ignition turned in the 'lock' position, the cylinder release operates as normal, and the cylinder will still swing out, but the trigger cannot be moved rearward to fire. It sounds like there's an audible 'click' when turned to the 'fire' position, so I'm thinking there's a spring/ball detent system within. I'll find out later.

Within 20 minutes of the purchase, I was sitting on DPMS's new testing range. As mentioned last week, I had already put 15 rounds of .357 158gr Blazer through a test model and hadn't received the reported 'massive' recoil that many speak of, but yesterday I found loads that were just TOO much for myself to handle. I'll start with a description of these.

These were some Cor-Bon loads that I had found in my ammo collection. The only reason I know they are CB is because of the 2 'stars' on the headstamp, but the bullet weights are unknown to me. While shoooting these, there were a couple times when I thought a nose-bleed was on the way. If anyone else has ever came down 'hard' in an Airborne jump or Air Assault repel(or been in a bar fight), you've probably experienced that feeling at the top of your nose where you swear you can smell blood, this was the same feeling I got while shooting these loads. It's surprising how much shock is transfered through your arms and into your cranium.

As far as standard velocity .357 goes, the recoil is heavy, but nothing that would make make choose to download to .38+p for carry. I fired Remington, CCI, and Federal 158's through it, and all seemed to perform the same. At 10 & 20 yards, the POA-to-POI ratio was DEAD ON, and seemed extreamely accurate for it's intended purpose(defense), but they are guarenteed to fire 1.7"(or less) at 7yds anyways.

With .38 or .38+P ammo, shooting is greatly tamed, and most shooters could probably handle several boxes if they wished. The only +P ammo I had was Federal's 158 Personal-Defense, but it printed the same as the magnum loads. And although there has been warnings of using non-jacketed lead bullets, it was all I had in standard .38spl loadings, so I fired a box of the CCI 158gr lead round-nose. Again, accuracy was the same, but lead build-up was noticable.

The trigger is very heavy, and I run out of travel on my 10# scale, but my estimate would be around 12-pounds, since it breaks as soon as I run out of numbers. It seems no different than my prior S&W 342 or M65(before rework), but a big change from my 1911s.

All in all, I am very happy with the purchase and will be carrying it everyday. I presently have it loaded with 158gr(.357) aluminum cased Blazer, and it's riding in a light-weight GunMate IWB holster(1.14oz.). This is about the lightest I can make the entire system, and that's what I was after.

So fully loaded, including the weight of the holster, the total comes to 15.42oz.:) I had carried my Pro Eclipe 1911 since September, and had recently dug my Beretta .32 Tomcat out of the closet, due to weight issues. I just didn't feel comfortable with the power of the Tomcat and the 340 is still 2.5oz lighter, while offering magnum performance.

Sorry about the 'weak' review. I was mostly addressing the recoil issues. If anyone has any specific questions I'd be glad to answer them. Because I still have several hundred$$ on store credit, I'm planning on ordering a standard grey 340 this week also. I like pairs.

BTW-It's the MN State Fishing Opener today and it's thunderstorming:(. This is the main reason for this report(cancelled plans & frustration).

Take Care!
 
I bought a 342ti to add to my .357 model 60. I've since traded the 342ti on a 340sc. The 340 loaded with .38's kicks about the same as my 60 loaded with .357's, which is to say a lot, but not anything crazy. I've found that the 340 loaded with .357's is really uncomfortable, and in fact painful. I can put a cylinder through, but my hand will be sore afterwards. I've got the 340 strapped to my ankle as I type, and it's loaded with +p .38's instead of the .357 Cor-Bons I had originally planned on carrying.
 
I just went to the range on Sunday with my S&W 360Sc and my Glock-27. The G-27 shot ok, but the 360Sc was a lot more on center and much tighter groupings (I only shoot double-action). I have also noticed that each time I go to the range, shooting .357MAG rounds dose not hurt my hand so much any more. I also own the S&W 386PD, I don't care what anyone else says these Scandium/Titanium guns are the best! ;)
Commander Fan I know what you mean when you talk about an Airborne jump, I was in the ARMY S.F. for about five years with over 30 jumps. When you hit the ground with -1 or T-10B (ouch :eek: )
 
If the Scandium line is too much of a Bear for .357mag, then why don't they make an even lighter revolver and chamber it for just .38?
 
They Do

S&W's first Titanium gun was a .38spl +P the Model-337Ti, it was my first one and it was a great gun. I gave my Model-337Ti to my brother last Christmas. You can even get the S&W Titanium guns in .32 H&R Magnum, Models-331Ti and 332Ti.
 
well i was tempted to buy one since my g26 doesn't ride in my pocket to well. but i was really worried about the recoil. i am not a small guy 6'5" 200lbs but still form what i hear they kick a lot. and the cheapest i have found one is for 529.00 so i think i will put of this purchase a while until i can get to shoot one first. does anyone know if ranges rent these guns. i would love to shoot it a few times before hand.
james
 
Liquid

The Titanium guns are not the kind of gun you can shoot just one time to see what they are like. These guns get better and better each and every time you shoot them!
 
342 and 340PD experience

After carrying 342 for about 2 1/2 years (and very pleased with), I sold and "upgraded" to 342PD for .357 option last January. With factory grips, recoil quite brutal with .357 loads. Addition of Crimson Trace "overmolded" grips greatly reduced the "sting", but recovery between rapid fire shots can still be somewhat more than desireable. On recent road trip beyond Texas thru three "reciprocity" states (until Ohio!), was most comfortable carried IWB with three .38+Ps then two 125 grain .357s ...
 
Ken Chavez...

A little accident last week has me sitting around in my robe. In the pocket of the robe is a S&W 331. I bought the 331, .32 H&R magnum because I figured it would be easier on the arthritis that affects my hands about once a month. And it is. The recoil is pretty light. I've also found that, for me, the .32 mag is a more accurate round out of a snub than a .38 special. Even when the arthritis is gone, I shoot the .32 mag a little better. I do like these AirLite Ti's. They're good little revolvers. I also have a Taurus "UL" snub that is chambered for .32 mags and it's PORTED! :)

KR
 
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