S.A. wont go back to battery.

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My Dad just bought an Ultra compact Ultra high cap S.A. 1911.

While he was at work he let me take it to the range. (Great Guy) while shooting Federal 230gr FMJ the slide would not return to batteru on about 8 or 9 of the 75 or so rounds i put through it. Then wheni took it home to clean it The slide was seriously having trouble sliding on and of the frame. Even lubed up really good.

My Dad took it back to the store and asked the guy. the store owner basically said that youhave to put around 300 rds through it before we send it back to S.A. He said that since it is a tight tolerance gun that it has to be worked in.

Now some of what he said made sense to me but I wanted to get my buddie TFL's opinion on this. I kinda suspected that he wantes my dad to use the gun so that if my dad tries to trade it in he can justify a lower trade in price. Im and just normally paranoid but I am just checking for your guys & gals opinion.
 
Were you using good quality factory ammunition or cheap imported ammunition? Were you using reloaded or remanufactured ammunition? Were you using lead or jacketed ammunition. There are many things that can be the cause of the problem, including the gun itself.
 
I was using Federal 230gr FMJ brass. WHile i was at the range i also put the same type ammo through an HK USPC .45 and a Kimber 1911 compact. Both these other guns worked fine.
 
I just sold one of my customers a SA 1911 Ultra compact and it displayed similar problems, as it intermittently wouldn't go into battery. Winchester USA white box ammo. We have an indoor shooting range, so he indeed fired 300 rounds himself through it, came and got me and I fired 50 rounds, the problem didn't go away. I used Speer Lawman ammo.

While it was sitting on the desk, waiting to return to the distributor for replacement, I noticed chunks of the anodized silver finish was flaking off the slide in front of the trigger guard.

This gun was NIB straight from the distributor, and never left our gunshop before it cosmetically self destructed, the mechanical problem can be fixed, but the frame flaking it's finish right out of the box???

My customer isn't happy with SA, and neither am I.

Similar mechanical problem? Yes.

Check your finish if yours is an alloy frame my friend!
 
Those who hang out here might remember my opinion of having to "break in" new pistols. Sometimes I can even say "break in" without adding "#%(*^%". I think any gun should work out of the box, fitted or not. But it can be true that a break in period will wear off burrs and let the gun function better.

Ask the dealer to put it in writing that he will take the gun back for a full refund with no questions asked after x number of rounds if it still doesn't work. I bet he balks, at which time you get your money back right then and buy elsewhere.

Jim
 
SA may have a great warranty department but every NIB SA I've purchased had major problems. I have since gotten rid of two of them and the one SA I have left (Ultra Compact LW 9mm) indeed, after the first range session, has the finish flaking off the frame. I'm not shipping the gun back to SA but am holding the gun to trade on a new Colt (last 2 Colt purchases have been flawless in finish and performance).

I do have a SA Super Tuned stainless that is superb but that model is no longer made was from the Custom Shop. It's the only SA I'll ever own because their current practice seems to be to "sell poor quality guns but provide outstanding warranty work". I don't expect to buy a NIB gun and send it in for warranty work the next day..... at least not gun after gun. I can accept a lemon once in awhile but not as the "norm".
 
Geez...just tell the guy that's bullsh** and you want your money back now. Tell him to take it up with SA...If you decide to keep it, contact Dave Williams at the SA custom shop and tell him the problems
you're having...
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davew@springfield-armory.com
 
Break-in!? That's BS. Handguns aren't toasters- you use them to defend your life. Are you going to have to tell a bad guy - sorry my gun isn't broken in yet, you'll have to come back? If SA can't build their 1911's to work everytime right out of the box then they shouldn't sell them.
 
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