Russian or Finn M44
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Mike Irwin
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Generally the Finnish guns have better sights and better barrels.
I searched for an M44 recently and it was generally suggested by many other posters that the Polish M44 was the best made. I purchased one from SOG and am very happy with it. It was well "broken in" but very servicable. After comparing it with Russian models, I was happy that I made the choice to buy a Polish model.
Rome
Rome
I recently bought a Polish version. Very nice. I have seen some of these Polish M44s that looked like a new commercial rifle. I didn't know that Finland even used the M44, can anyone confirm or deny this ? I of course know that Finland used Moisan Nagant actions to make their M39 rifles (of which I own two). I have never seen a Russian, but don't shy away from the Polish.
http://www.voicenet.com/~danz/MN/fin2.htm
http://www.voicenet.com/~danz/MN/fin2.htm
Destructo6
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As far as I know, Finland reworked captured Russian Mosin-Nagant 1891's and called them "M-39". Most reports say these are excellent.
The Polish probably made the best M44.
The Polish probably made the best M44.
rugerfreak
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I bought an unissued Polish M-44 a couple of years ago---it has about 60 rounds though it now----seems to be a good shooter----but I really need to get serious about putting a scope on it to see what it is capable of-----the iron sights are a little crude.
The Gooch
You ask for recomendations for a rifle in 7.62x54R. I am not an old hand at milsurp rifles. I just got into this aspect of shooting myself. I have a couple Finnish M39s, a Mosin Nagant 91/30, and a Polish M44 in that caliber. The M39 is the superior rifle hands down. You can read about it on the link I provided in my previous post. Mine proved to be everything they were touted to be. The are well made and very accurate for a military rifle. I bought mine from a private party for about half what they are going for in the Shotgun news, but I think they are still worth the money at the higher price. The M39 has an adjustable front sight which is just one more well thought out design feature rather than drifting the front sight with a brass punch to sight in. Mine shoots about 6" high at 100 yards with the rear sight on it's lowest setting. I am able to shoot groups of about 3" with iron sights using the fender of my pickup as a rest. I am sure that I could reduce this further with a real benchrest, handloading, and a scope. Check out http://milsurpshooter.net/ for some more good information on milsurp rifles. Check out the scout scope mount for the M39. I am going to order one of these mounts and see just what this rifle will do. I don't want to modify any of my milsurps from their origional form and this mount doesn't require any holes to be drilled etc. allowing me to remove it and have a stock rifle any time I want.
The M44 is a decent rifle. It has a lot more recoil than the much heavier M39. The one thing I don't like about the M44 is the bayonet hanging off the side. That is just a personal opinion though.
You ask for recomendations for a rifle in 7.62x54R. I am not an old hand at milsurp rifles. I just got into this aspect of shooting myself. I have a couple Finnish M39s, a Mosin Nagant 91/30, and a Polish M44 in that caliber. The M39 is the superior rifle hands down. You can read about it on the link I provided in my previous post. Mine proved to be everything they were touted to be. The are well made and very accurate for a military rifle. I bought mine from a private party for about half what they are going for in the Shotgun news, but I think they are still worth the money at the higher price. The M39 has an adjustable front sight which is just one more well thought out design feature rather than drifting the front sight with a brass punch to sight in. Mine shoots about 6" high at 100 yards with the rear sight on it's lowest setting. I am able to shoot groups of about 3" with iron sights using the fender of my pickup as a rest. I am sure that I could reduce this further with a real benchrest, handloading, and a scope. Check out http://milsurpshooter.net/ for some more good information on milsurp rifles. Check out the scout scope mount for the M39. I am going to order one of these mounts and see just what this rifle will do. I don't want to modify any of my milsurps from their origional form and this mount doesn't require any holes to be drilled etc. allowing me to remove it and have a stock rifle any time I want.
The M44 is a decent rifle. It has a lot more recoil than the much heavier M39. The one thing I don't like about the M44 is the bayonet hanging off the side. That is just a personal opinion though.
Guys, you cann't deny existance of Finn M44 just because everybody seems to know that there is no such thing as Finn M44.
Finns are just like Russians - they like to drink vodka, so who knows, they could make one of their own M44 under influence by accident w/o really figuring it out why in the hell this M39 is
so damn short this time....
Go and get this Finn M44 ASAP while we're all bitching about it...
Finns are just like Russians - they like to drink vodka, so who knows, they could make one of their own M44 under influence by accident w/o really figuring it out why in the hell this M39 is
so damn short this time....
Go and get this Finn M44 ASAP while we're all bitching about it...
Finns captured some Soviet M44's in the last months of the war 1944. The amounts were so small that they were considered to be a variation of a Soviet M/38 carbine.
I have read that these rifles were sold or scrapped in the 1960's. Without a doubt I can say that there has never been a Finnish M44 carbine with short barrel and folding bayonet. M39 was the last common model except the sniper rifles.
Why would you want an M/44 ? They are very unpleasant to shoot.
I have read that these rifles were sold or scrapped in the 1960's. Without a doubt I can say that there has never been a Finnish M44 carbine with short barrel and folding bayonet. M39 was the last common model except the sniper rifles.
Why would you want an M/44 ? They are very unpleasant to shoot.
kalibear45
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Do yourself a favor and shop around http://www.gunbroker.com and http://www.auctionarms.com for some good M39s. Search for the seller "Alley Cat" as he usually sells a variety of Mosin Nagants. I bought a brand new Finnish M39 from him made in 1970, one of my favorite rifles to shoot.
