Ruger update...(done with Ruger)parked it

Vet66

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I've had so many problems with the Ruger SP101 4.2" 357 mag , no satisfaction...second one, rep talked me out of sending it back...sent me new rear sights instead, no help.
I put it in the back of the gun safe for now....bought a S&W 625 PC in 45 ACP... darn if it can shoot.. wow...this is used but not hard. Came with both the PC grips and, crimson trace laser grips. So be it, still not slamming the door on Ruger but, I sure hope they get back in sync.

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Glad to see you leave the door cracked for Ruger.It's very frustrating for us!But usually Ruger makes good guns and has excellent CS.
 
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Vet 66,
This what I posted & wrote to the CEO of Ruger.

In my business, I've seen a serious decline in QC since 2008 when the stuff hit the fan and the economy went south. My guess is that because of the huge increase in demand that the QC people are working way past their peak time for inspections and they are not paying as much attention to the little details that they would usually pick up on. I go to a couple of sites and I'm seeing that more people are having problems that didn't happen before. This of course is IMHO.
Yes Smith and Ruger and Taurus etc. all have very good Customer Service but I don't feel that getting a product like I bought should have to go back even before I used it. We older timers referred to these products as "Lemons".
Respectfully,
Doc
 
Doc, I agree that lately Ruger QC has slipped. I have five Rugers that I've owned for years with no problems, I do like them that's why I'm not giving up on them yet. This latest revolver (replacement) will sit in the safe....I'll square it away someday. Insofar as the original post is concerned, I was waiting for a real response from Ruger before I replied on the outcome...that is the reason for the delay...post was closed before I could reply...so here is the update. Sorry for offending anyone here.
 
I just got back from taking my new SP101 4" to the range for the first time. I too, had issues with the sights being loose. However, it was simply a matter of screwing down the vertical adjustment screw. It came from the factory with that screw's threads not engaging enough. My first group from the 7 yard line was about 4 to 5 inches high and screwing it down brought the group down to bull's-eye level.
 
I can understand having a sour taste after a couple of back-to-back unsatisfactory experiences with a gun company. I had that happen to me with a couple early production Charter Arms .44 Spl Bulldogs. I've not tried another one since, but I realize my avoidance of them probably isn't justified by such a small sampling. ;)

I've been a Ruger enthusiast and owner since I was a young man. Lots of them. I learned to shoot using them, and the first centerfire revolver I bought when I turned 21 was a New Model .44 Magnum SBH (first year of the New Model, if I remember correctly).

That SBH had to go back for correction for a jumping cylinder base pin (revised after I bought mine).

I've had to have several Ruger firearms repaired or corrected for minor problems. Most of the during the 70's-90's. I've had them replace the trigger group, cylinder & hammer on a RH, and a slide was replaced on a P90 (heat treat problem I was told), a burred part causing the cylinder to occasionally seize on a SP101, a failure-to-fire with a MKII, and some minor issues with a couple of Security-Six series guns, a Blackhawk, etc.

I think I only own 10 Ruger handguns at the moment (off the top of my head), as I foolishly let many of the other ones slip away over the years.

The only new Rugers I've bought since the 90's have been a couple of LCP's, so I have no idea if their QC may have sometimes slipped a bit since then. Of the 2 LCP's I've bought, one of them had a walking takedown pin, but the new pin Ruger sent me corrected that minor issue. The other one's been normal and good.

Ruger is a fine American firearms company, but I'd not be surprised if the huge demand for firearms has made it harder for them (and everyone else making firearms) to prevent an occasional issue from making it out the door.

I'll probably buy more of them at some point, and without any more qualms than was the case many years ago.

Nice looking 625PC, BTW.
 
(Doyle)I just got back from taking my new SP101 4" to the range for the first time. I too, had issues with the sights being loose. However, it was simply a matter of screwing down the vertical adjustment screw. It came from the factory with that screw's threads not engaging enough. My first group from the 7 yard line was about 4 to 5 inches high and screwing it down brought the group down to bull's-eye level.

Mine is just the opposite, 4-5" low @ 21' ,plus left, I did drift the front sight to correct the windage problem but, I am out of elevation. Something on this revolver is way off, I suspect the barrel. Perhaps I can find a lower hi-viz front sight. Not getting a warm fuzzy feeling from Ruger. Maybe they will send me a RMA....it is new after all.
 
HighValleyRanch have you tried various different loads in it to see if you can get a different or better POI?

Yes, I've tried various powders that I have on hand, Bullseye, unique, 231, HS6 and, N320. Also tried 110, 125 and 158 gr bullets with mediocre results, the 125 worked best but 6-8 spread @ 21' not good. It won't hit paper @ 25 yards. Pretty bad for a 4" barrel revolver, my 2.25 Ruger SP101 does better. it does not like 38 special loads at all, 357 mag at least will find paper once in a while. I just seem to think the barrel is fubar.
 
In your other post, you spoke of lead shaving, etc.

Just curious on your Ruger . . . . what did your bore slug at and what did your cylinder throats measure out to? Ruger is famous for small cylinder throats. Or did you never do those basic things? That could very well be a big part of your poor accuracy . . . .
 
In your other post, you spoke of lead shaving, etc.

Just curious on your Ruger . . . . what did your bore slug at and what did your cylinder throats measure out to? Ruger is famous for small cylinder throats. Or did you never do those basic things? That could very well be a big part of your poor accuracy . . . .

The first revolver was sent back, it had poor lockup L_R and, did impact the forcing cone which shaved and, spit back debris in my face. This replacement has good lockup but no accuracy at all. I did not measure the cylinder throats
nor did I slug the barrel. You have thinking about the cylinder, when shooting 357 factory loads it takes some pounding to get the spent shells out.
 
The only good thing about buying a Ruger is the price (cheap)
At one time a pretty good gun but the new stuff is junk .

not sure if anything else is much better .
 
KEYBEAR The only good thing about buying a Ruger is the price (cheap)
At one time a pretty good gun but the new stuff is junk .

not sure if anything else is much better .

Well, I 'm not going to slam Ruger on all the guns they produce, I've had many over the years (still have 5) with zero problems but, this model 357 4.2" has been a pita. Sad, would like to love it. All I have to say for now, thank you all for the suggestions... I'm going to let it sit awhile.
 
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