checkmyswag
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How accurate is this rifle? With iron sights? With scope?
100 yards?
200 yards?
300 yards?
Beyond?
100 yards?
200 yards?
300 yards?
Beyond?
Ruger Scout 308
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Well, the gun is however accurate inherently it's going to be, iron sights or otherwise, but I find it pretty easy to shoot well at moderate distances with the iron sights.
I've not benchrested it, but it seems to be a really good little shooter from my limited experience with it thus far. We've done one video with it, and I've packed it around the farm a bit for some pleasurable plinking. Guess all plinking is pleasurable, though, right?
Nifty little gun.
Hickok45
I've not benchrested it, but it seems to be a really good little shooter from my limited experience with it thus far. We've done one video with it, and I've packed it around the farm a bit for some pleasurable plinking. Guess all plinking is pleasurable, though, right?
Nifty little gun.
Hickok45
The Scout rifle was conceived to put one decisive blow on a man-sized target at 300 meters. The Ruger Scout is certainly capable of that level of accuracy.
Beyond that, it's probably more accurate than the shooter. It's not a benchrest rifle, nor is it designed to be. It's a light, handy, general purpose rifle. There are several manufacturers who make such rifles, although many of them don't meet the specs nor have the general fashion of the scout rifle. The Ruger GSR is fashionable nowadays and lots of folks seem to like it. I have several light, handy rifles capable of putting one decisive blow on a target at 300 meters, but they don't meet the weight or sighting criteria of the GSR. My old Remington 700 ADL comes to mind, but no one would consider it a Scout rifle.
Beyond that, it's probably more accurate than the shooter. It's not a benchrest rifle, nor is it designed to be. It's a light, handy, general purpose rifle. There are several manufacturers who make such rifles, although many of them don't meet the specs nor have the general fashion of the scout rifle. The Ruger GSR is fashionable nowadays and lots of folks seem to like it. I have several light, handy rifles capable of putting one decisive blow on a target at 300 meters, but they don't meet the weight or sighting criteria of the GSR. My old Remington 700 ADL comes to mind, but no one would consider it a Scout rifle.
bamaranger
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likely more accurate than the shooter
I do not own a Ruger Scout, but I have several aperture/peep sighted carbines in assorted calibers. These carbines are no more or less accurate than their full size brothers and are mechanically capable of about the same accuracy. The shorter sight radius and lighter weight make them slightly more difficult to shoot as well (theoretically anyhow) and the short bbls have more blast, but, from a bench and controlled conditions they are all good shooters.
The determining factor is not the rifle, so much, but the ammo and rifleman. To that I would add that the connection to good shooting is a decent trigger.
So here is what two bolt carbines have done lately, benched and shot slowly for group at 100 yds.
A recently purchased Mark X Mannlicher plunked 3 rds (my first 100 yd group w/ it) into 1-1/4 inches. My best effort w/ it, but ALL the ammo I fired (mixed loads) that day went into groups of less than 3MOA.
My Savage scout, w/ factory peep, routinely plunks FMJ general purpose reloads, no accuracy tricks and cheap FMJ slugs, into 5 rd groups.....2MOA plus or minus.
Run the math and that gives roughly groups of 4" at 200 and 6" at 300, though ones ablility to hit w/ irons on smallish targets at 300 likely varies widely from shooter to shooter.
I do not own a Ruger Scout, but I have several aperture/peep sighted carbines in assorted calibers. These carbines are no more or less accurate than their full size brothers and are mechanically capable of about the same accuracy. The shorter sight radius and lighter weight make them slightly more difficult to shoot as well (theoretically anyhow) and the short bbls have more blast, but, from a bench and controlled conditions they are all good shooters.
The determining factor is not the rifle, so much, but the ammo and rifleman. To that I would add that the connection to good shooting is a decent trigger.
So here is what two bolt carbines have done lately, benched and shot slowly for group at 100 yds.
A recently purchased Mark X Mannlicher plunked 3 rds (my first 100 yd group w/ it) into 1-1/4 inches. My best effort w/ it, but ALL the ammo I fired (mixed loads) that day went into groups of less than 3MOA.
My Savage scout, w/ factory peep, routinely plunks FMJ general purpose reloads, no accuracy tricks and cheap FMJ slugs, into 5 rd groups.....2MOA plus or minus.
Run the math and that gives roughly groups of 4" at 200 and 6" at 300, though ones ablility to hit w/ irons on smallish targets at 300 likely varies widely from shooter to shooter.
A question which has been asked on this forum a number of times on a few different threads since the GSR came out, and a question that I have yet to hear/see any evidence to show what it is capable of.
I have even tried searching online, and still have yet to see any bench rest targets posted that show what it is capable of.
I would love to be corrected; with posted targets with all pertinent details afixed, or an address to where someone has actually attempted to find out just how accurate this puppy is.
I know, I know, "great trigger out of the box", "more accurate than most shooters", "not what it was intended/designed for"...
And yet the questions remains...
My Ruger Scout (with iron sights) produces groups of about 2 inches at 100 yards with my pet load of 46.5 grains of WC844T and a 165 grain softpoint of unknown manufacture (Midway Blems I bought for about a dime apiece) LC 2007 brass and Wolf large rifle primers. Velocity is right at 2600 Fps as measured by my CED M2 Chronograph.
I mention the load and components to share that I'm using the cheapest of the cheap with this rifle, with premium components I'm sure it will cut the groups considerably.
I have used several different sighting systems besides the irons, red dots, forward mounted pistol scopes and conventional rear mointed scopes and the accuracy remained stable with those systems at a little under 1" groups for 3 shots at 100 yards:
Conventionally mounted Nikon Prostaff 3X9.
Forward mounted 2X weaver pistol Scope
Burris FastfireII
Here's a representative group with the aforementioned load using the Nikon Scope from a bench at 100 yards.
Here's a 15 round group at 100 yards using a conventionally mounted Nikon Prostaff. I was working the bolt as fast as I could and firing as soon as I could get the crosshairs back on the target, no consideration was given to the barrel heating up.
The "lone" bullet hole down at 7 O'clock was a called flyer.
Here's a 200 yard group I fired yesterday with the last 3 rounds of 100 fired that morning:
The group is just a little over 2 inches (I probably could have tightened it up some but I was tired).
I havent fired the rifle for groups at 300 and beyond but I have shot it at steel swingers 10 inches square at 300 and have had no problem keeping all the rounds on the plate from a bipod.
My evaluation of The Ruger Scout (my shooting notwithstanding) is that it is as accurate as any other 308 rifle I own.
It's light weight, has a relatively stiff barrel and is plenty accurate (by my evalaution) out to 300 yards.
I mention the load and components to share that I'm using the cheapest of the cheap with this rifle, with premium components I'm sure it will cut the groups considerably.
I have used several different sighting systems besides the irons, red dots, forward mounted pistol scopes and conventional rear mointed scopes and the accuracy remained stable with those systems at a little under 1" groups for 3 shots at 100 yards:
Conventionally mounted Nikon Prostaff 3X9.
Forward mounted 2X weaver pistol Scope
Burris FastfireII
Here's a representative group with the aforementioned load using the Nikon Scope from a bench at 100 yards.
Here's a 15 round group at 100 yards using a conventionally mounted Nikon Prostaff. I was working the bolt as fast as I could and firing as soon as I could get the crosshairs back on the target, no consideration was given to the barrel heating up.
The "lone" bullet hole down at 7 O'clock was a called flyer.
Here's a 200 yard group I fired yesterday with the last 3 rounds of 100 fired that morning:
The group is just a little over 2 inches (I probably could have tightened it up some but I was tired).
I havent fired the rifle for groups at 300 and beyond but I have shot it at steel swingers 10 inches square at 300 and have had no problem keeping all the rounds on the plate from a bipod.
My evaluation of The Ruger Scout (my shooting notwithstanding) is that it is as accurate as any other 308 rifle I own.
It's light weight, has a relatively stiff barrel and is plenty accurate (by my evalaution) out to 300 yards.
All the PTR-91, AR10, FN fALs, M14's weight in over 10 lbs. Add optics, lights, grips, bi pods... pushing 15 lbs of dead weight.
Swing weight makes it mighty fast on the draw... Not.
fricken insane lugging that around taking out bad guys in the bush.
I think this is why we see the M14 in the role of sniper rifle, so you can just plant yourself and wait for a lucky shoot.
My MINI 14 with 30 rounds of ammo and a scope is a little over 9 lbs. Maybe 7.5 if I get rid of the scope, but its a Nikon Point blank M223 and it is awesome.
Swing weight makes it mighty fast on the draw... Not.
fricken insane lugging that around taking out bad guys in the bush.
I think this is why we see the M14 in the role of sniper rifle, so you can just plant yourself and wait for a lucky shoot.
My MINI 14 with 30 rounds of ammo and a scope is a little over 9 lbs. Maybe 7.5 if I get rid of the scope, but its a Nikon Point blank M223 and it is awesome.
Guess it is not that good.
This guy just put his up for sale said it did not live up to the MINI 14 he owns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-3qwXXaUc
This guy just put his up for sale said it did not live up to the MINI 14 he owns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-3qwXXaUc