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Claemore70

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Well, I was wrong on a few counts...

First of all, dirt is a great test medium.
Secondly, the Ruger jammed after every round-stovepipes. The slide would not rack all the way back, was slowed down tremendously. I threw the P97 in the dishwasher, and it was all clean.

The Beretta is my next test in the dirt. Any wagers? Will the Glock reign supreme in this test of reliability? Will conduct this test in a couple of days, what do you all think?

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This seems as though it is posted as a follow-up to an earlier thread. I searched your user name, and I couldn't find it.
Anyhow, can you elaborate a bit further on this "test"? Apparently, you put a P97 in the dirt and fired it. Can you decribe the soil? Did you just drop the pistol on the ground and pick it up? Did you put it in a bucket and cover it over? Did you have the chamber loaded, or did you hand cycle the first round allowing egress to the dirt which it didn't already have? What sort of ammo was used? Was this ammo known to be reliable in the test pistol when it was clean and lubed normally? What sort of lube did you use, if any? What parts of the pistol were lubed?
Anything else you can think of would be great also. Thanks, VL.
 
I am confused also.

But I would never put a gun in a dishwasher. If there is any lead in the gun at all it will instantly contaminate the inside of the dishwasher and can not be removed. I prefer my meals lead free.

Rusty
 
yes, dirt is a good test medium. I very often find myself burried in sand needing to fend off bad guy's. Please continue this informative thread.
:rolleyes:

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[This message has been edited by leedesert (edited June 26, 2000).]
 
Claemore70,

I personaly thank you for taking the time and effort to show us how our guns are not as reliable in ALL situations as many believed.

One little stroll in the woods and your gun can pick up all sorts of goodies. Especily detramental is sand and its cousins (loess on a river bank , wind swept silt etc.) even if you dont purposfuly stick your gun in the mud it is nice to know which guns re more capable of handling this torture.

However I would take the advice of TexasRusty and clean your wepons so that they have no contact- residue or otherwise with your food supply.

Please do give us more details about how much where and what type of dirt/fouling as this will aid in our understanding of the mechanisim.

Peace

IZZY
 
You should know that extreme heat (ie. a dishwasher, esp. drying) can adversely affect springs. How do you think many metal stampings are formed? Heated until pliable (sp?)---> then cooled to keep the shape. The same thing will happen with springs. If a spring is compressed when heated, it will NOT have the same compression once cooled. Hopefully you pulled all springs out of the grip etc before washing. Either way, I know ONE person I'm never selling my guns to.
;)
FWIW, sand can also tear up a dishwasher.

Ben

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To VictorLouis and the others:
The original thread was on the FBI1911 thread. But anyway, the Ruger was dropped in sandy dirt, as I live kind of in the desert, with the slide locked open. I then stepped on it, pulled out then I loaded a magazine, and then pulled the trigger. I had lubed it as though for duty; i.e. very lightly, but thoroughly. I will next time try it with the slide closed on a round, and see then. More realistic anyway. I only cleaned the slide and the frame in the washer.

I expect all my firearms to perform in inclement conditions, otherwise they are no good to me. My test was a little extreme, but I was curious. I promised to be honest, and I was. The Beretta test will not be as extreme, but it will be tested just the same. And thanks to y'all's input, will not put it in the dishwasher.



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Thanks for a little clarification. But, you still didn't say what type of ammo it was, and if it had previously been shot w/o problems. You've piqued my curiousity, and I "may" entertain trying this myself at my range. I am here in the desert too, and the range has nice tall sand berms. Maybe toss it hard into a soft spot, and then onto the other side for good measure? I will keep the chamber empty, though, just in case. :)
 
Sorry, forgot about the ammo part. I used remanufactured hardball. Has functioned perfectly in the Ruger before. The gun has never jammed in the past on any ammo I've put through it, either. I'm pretty sure you'd be ok leaving a round in the chamber, but don't know what kind of gun you are trying this with. Good luck!
 
I for one would like some resident of the Hawiaan Islands to lower his piece into an active lava pipe and try to fire it then. We really need to know that our weapons are reliable under the most exiguous of circumstances.
If I were being chased by a mandrake, I might drop my gun and then try to fire it without giving it at least a shirt-tail brush-off, but otherwise...

;)

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If they take our guns, I intend to let my hair grow long and acquire the jawbone of an ass.
 
Slabsides, I appreciate the fun being poked at me for doing something like this. Oh well. I take it by your name you are a fan of the 1911, bet my Ruger and my Beretta are a lot more reliable than your 1911! A lot more rugged, more price effective, more, well you get my point. If reliability and durability, and economy are not important to you, then it is my hat off to you.

P.S.: why would you give them your guns in the first place? 'Course the jawbone is more reliable than the 1911.

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