Ruger MkIII to go, Kadet to come. Would you?

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Pond James Pond

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Toying with the idea of getting rid of my Ruger MkIII and replacing it with a Kadet conversion for my SP-01.

The Ruger is very accurate, comfortable, has had the barrel threaded, a third mag bought and fitted with FO Williams sights. It does have a tendency to stove-pipe/FTE perhaps once or twice per hundred rounds. That has improved with time, changes in ammo and removing the LCI.
However, it is a Ruger, is as solid as solid be and I know and like it.
I use it mostly for informal club.22LR comps where a silencer is mandatory.

The Kadet would not be threaded and making it so for my club comps would be tricky but I have a design in mind. I'd have to buy another mag to match the three I sell with the Ruger. It is not strictly designed to fit the SP-01, but apart an odd look at the muzzle, it is said to work. It would mean that all my .22Lr practice would continue to familiarise me with my SP-01 trigger, smoothing it out and increase my ability to recognise a good sight picture.
Possibly most beneficial is that it would mean that I legally have one less gun in the safe as conversions are not a gun in their own right. I could then buy something else, if I chose to.
I cannot do this right now unless I get rid of one gun.

Would you sell the Ruger?
 
I have a Ruger mark II. I like having at least 1 .22LR pistol. The only reason I'd get rid of my Mark II is to get a S&W Model 41.
 
I had a Ruger MKII in stainless, with the long, slab-sided barrel. (I don't remember, but think it was considered a Government model.) Very nice gun.

I picked up a Kadet Kit, and found that it shot just as accurately as the Ruger, and the trigger on the CZ (an 85 Combat) I used it with was very nice.

Then someone offered me a Witness Sport Long Slide in .45 in trade for the Ruger. He had problems with arthritis in his hands, and found the .45 too hard to shoot -- and I wasn't shooting the Ruger. I traded.

I regret losing a beautiful gun, and the stainless, long-barreled slab-sided Government model was a beautiful gun, but the Sport Long Slide was very nice too. Years later I traded it away.
 
Keep the Ruger,,,

I own a Kadet pistol,,,
It's a great shooter for certain,,,
And one I get no end of enjoyment owning,,,
But it's an entirely different animal from your suppressed Ruger.

I own a pair of Ruger 22/45 target pistols,,,
At distance they are so much easier to hit with.

Is your needing to sell the Ruger a money thing or a legal thing?

If it's money,,,
Just wait a while longer,,,
Or sell something other than a gun.

Surely you have a spare grandchild you could sell to the gypsies. ;)

Aarond

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I cannot abide the Ruger's dis/reassembly procedure. Even with a manual and six youtube tutorials, I could never get the thing together easily, and sold it after two or three range trips.
If you are considering keeping yours, then you either are a masochist, or you know how to get it back together. :D
 
Owned a Mark III and have used a Kadet. I liked the Kadet more than the Ruger. Ruger was perhaps more accurate due to a longer barrel, but it was also significantly more difficult to strip, clean, and reassemble.

I like .22 conversion kits. Have one that fits all of my 1911's and it performs very well. I'd got for the Kadet.
 
With one exception, the only .22 auto loader I've ever owned, or wanted to own, is a Ruger.
No trouble here with reassembly, though.
Maybe it's because I've had them since I was a pup.
Guess you can figure out what my answer is.
 
WHile I have a Kadet Kit, have sold the great Government Model I once owned, and shoot mostly my Kadet (mounted on an 85 Combat), I didn't sell the Ruger because of the difficulty in disassembly and cleaning. (IN fact, I've since bought a used Mk II so that my wife or so/grandson can shoot when I shoot the Kadet Kit.)

Learning to reassemble the Ruger is easy, but you may have to have someone comfortable with the process show you how to do it. (Or view one of the many YouTube videos.)

Getting the hammer strut in the right position is a key -- once you get that down, it's just as easy as almost any .22 to reassemble.
 
Is your needing to sell the Ruger a money thing or a legal thing?
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If anything it is both. I mean, I don't need to sell the Ruger.
But keeping it means no chance of getting anything new.

I am at a legal threshold storage-wise. To get anything else, I either have to make space, or buy an upgraded safe. The latter is not going to happen, so that leaves selling something. The Ruger seems the most likely candidate as I could get a Kadet conversion instead which is not counted as a gun, but rather an accessory for the SP-01.

It would also mean that every .22 round I shoot would be making me more familiar with my CZ's trigger, grip, balance, sight picture etc. Right now, the Ruger does none of those, despite being a good way to practice form and technique.

I don't even know that I would buy something else although my other threads certainly make that statement a bit hollow! ;)
(One thread on VZ vs ARs and another about a Ruger Blackhawk!! :D)
I'd at least have the option.
Or I just accept that these are the guns I own and make do with what I have now.
 
I have a Kadet Kit which I use mostly on my 75B, but sometimes on my PCR. It is accurate, reliable, and fun to shoot. I have had the Kadet Kit since 2000 with a lot of rounds downrange. I also have three Ruger MK II's one of which I've had since 1991. Disassembly, and reassembly have never been a problem with my Rugers. I would not want to give them up, but I do not have the legal constraints that Pond does.
 
With your constraints, the Kadet for sure.

^^ Ditto Dat ^^

But figure out some way to keep the Ruger.

If you have no spare grandchildren to peddle,,,
Fly to Thailand and sell a kidney.

Aarond

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With your constraints, the kadet does not raise your count..
Therefore, you could get one and keep the ruger to shoot comps with,
As its already setup for it, and as you said you like it....

Then you can still use the kadet as a understudy to your sp-o1


I do know one thing though...
I'm not planning on parting with my kadet on the single action 85 combat...

And I do have a mk 3 comp/ target model that I have tweaked to my satisfaction..

If you end up getting a kadet, the modified uplula loaders for the kadet mags will
Make your thumb happy....
 
I like Rugers a lot and think the Mark anything .22 is a great bargain.

You’ve got a bit of a unique situation though and I can totally understand your reason to replace the Ruger with a conversion kit so you can (legally where you are) get another gun.

Let’s face it there is no shortage of Ruger .22 pistols. There are a lot out there and they’re making more.

I’d say do the switch, get another gun and when the laws at your location improve or you move then get a Ruger .22 again. (Or if you get semi-rich an S&W 41.)
 
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