I've been on the hunt for a Rossi 92 Stainless in 357 magnum. I visited a local gun store to pick up a rifle I had ordered online and delivered there. While chatting with the dude behind the counter, I asked if they had any Rossi lever guns in. He said they had a couple but only in 45-70. I told him I was looking for a .357 Magnum because I had a 38 special revolver and I could buy ammo for two guns. He immediately said that the Rossi wouldn't run the 38 special and could have a failure (i.e. "blow up"). I had never heard this before and can't find anything on the web to indicate this has been a common problem. Have any of yall ever heard of this problem with Rossi 92's?
Rossi Model 92 catastrophic failure?
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In my research before I bought and R92 in .45 colt I recall coming across discussions of some .38 special rounds having trouble feeding properly because of the slight difference in length. Given that these R92's are not built to particularly tight tolerances I am not surprised to hear that. I have a feeling that is a situation that will vary from gun to gun.
I never heard of catastrophic failures, but my research has been far from exhaustive. I wouldn't worry about it though, if it happened more than once we would have all heard about it by now.
I never heard of catastrophic failures, but my research has been far from exhaustive. I wouldn't worry about it though, if it happened more than once we would have all heard about it by now.
tahunua001
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I've never heard of a 357 that would have a catostrophic failure in 38sp. I could see something as described above where slight difference in length would create feeding problems but there just isn't enough room for something like that to happen in a 357 chamber.
I would say he was probably just trying to sell you a 45-70.
I would say he was probably just trying to sell you a 45-70.
Rockhanger
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.38s feed just fine in my m92. Never any problems.
Magnum Wheel Man
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shot my 357 with 38's through most of last years CASS schedule, with only 1 cartridge issue in 420 rounds
never heard of a Rossi KB, especially with using a 38 in a 357 rifle
never heard of a Rossi KB, especially with using a 38 in a 357 rifle
Magnum Wheel Man
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as an FYI, I use a medium Trailboss load, loaded to recommended COL, & use Sutterschoice lead trunc. cone bullets... not totally sure why I had the one hick up, as it was my 1st cartridge in the magazine, & after I( got it to chamber, the rest cycled just like normal
Given the fact that the Rossi 92s are manufacutured on state of the art CNC machinery, I find that mine is tighter and more accurate than a vintage Winchester 1892. I am the proud owner of a 92 winchester in .38WCF but leave it hanging on the wall during the day so I can admire it, but do not shoot it often.
My rossi shoots .38 spl without stutter and will shoot full pressure loads with 180 gr. cast bullets that would blow up any ancient winchesters, very accurately.
If you are going to bash a gun/auto/whatever, at least have the intellectual honesty to abstain from comment unless you actually have experience with it.
My rossi shoots .38 spl without stutter and will shoot full pressure loads with 180 gr. cast bullets that would blow up any ancient winchesters, very accurately.
If you are going to bash a gun/auto/whatever, at least have the intellectual honesty to abstain from comment unless you actually have experience with it.
Thanks for the info. I wasn't trying to bash anything. Just wanted to find out if this was a common issue before I went and laid down some silver for this
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I cannot imagine a .38 Special causing a catastrophic failure in any gun chambered for a .357 Magnum, since the .38 Special is loaded to a much lower pressure than the .357. In fact, .357 cases are 0.135 inches longer that .38 Special by design, so that the .357 will not chamber in a .38 Special revolver. That was done to keep some fool from blowing up his .38 with a .357 Magnum round.
There is one way that a .38 Special could blow up a .357 Magnum rifle--if the bullet from a light .38 Special did not make it all the way out of the muzzle and was lodged in the bore of the rifle, then firing a subsequent round might cause a catastrophic failure.
There is one way that a .38 Special could blow up a .357 Magnum rifle--if the bullet from a light .38 Special did not make it all the way out of the muzzle and was lodged in the bore of the rifle, then firing a subsequent round might cause a catastrophic failure.
I have had someone try to tell me thin in the past. Their logic was that the .38 was .023 bigger in diameter than the .357. - what ever. After I explained to them the difference between the two they asked why they didn't call it a .357 short?
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Except the "38" isn't any bigger than the .357. They are both .357 in diameter. Whoever told you that didn't know much about cartridges. The reason it wasn't called the .357 short is because it predated the .357 by quite a few years.
That would be like "why don't we call the .45 Colt the .45 short, since it's a short version of the .454 Casull?"
As a few have said, some are case length--as in short--sensitive;...doesn't equate to a catastrophic failure.Mike Irwin
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Rossi makes .45-70 rifles?
A catastrophic failure could occur in a tubular magazine rifle if spire point bullets are loaded. Just as Hornady's "LEVERevolution" line of ammunition and bullets are designed with a soft point so as not to ignite a primer if the rifle is dropped or in the case of heavy recoil (can't see that with 38spl). I do have some 357 factory spire points. I think now discontinued, they are metal piercing bullets with a fairly sharp point. I would not load them in my Rossi 92 or any other tubular magazine rifle.