Ross Straight-Pull Mk.3, Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk.1, Mosin-Nagant M31 Hex Receiver.

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I would like to know which of the three rifles in the title (Ross Straight-Pull Mk.3, Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk.1, Mosin-Nagant M31 Hex Receiver) Would be best-suited for hunting a deer. I love WW2 firearms, but I need an excuse to buy a gun, because I don't want wall pieces.
 
if you mean a finnish model 39 instead of a 91/30,thats what i would buy. if not than a mk4/1. i would also look at a m-48 yugo in 8mm. eastbank.
 
You missed one! Actually the best govmnt-made sporter conversion ever, the No5 "Jungle Carbine".:cool:

All the speed & smoothness of the NO4's Lee action, none of the excess weight & bulk of a full-sized No1 or No4 rifle. None of the teeth rattling bone crushing recoil of a Nagant carbine & with the flash hider it won't even start grass fires!:)

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Side by side comparison:
9+ pound, 44" rifle behind, 7 pound, 39 1/2" carbine in front.

Wandering zero? Pshaw never found one. Ammo, no problem 150 Gr Prvi soft point will drop anything up to a bull moose.
 
Two further questions.

1) What's wrong with an 91/30, and 2) Would you happen to know how much a no.5 costs compared to a No.4? I can't find No.5s anywhere...
 
Also, the only thing comparable to these rifles I've ever fired personally was a 7.65 Argentino Mosin-Nagant, and an M1903 Springfield. The Springfield was alright, but it felt like th bolt handed been lubed since it was manufactured, and the Nagant... well, besides the odd cartridge, I've never again jammed a bolt.
 
Out of the 3 I would go with the Enfield. I have a mark 1 #3 and my brother has a Mark 4 #1 and both are great rifles bought cheap and a scope mount is easier to put on. I bought both at the same time for $275 ($125 and $150) and let my brother have his pick.

Of course a couple weeks ago I saw a #5 and kind of want one now.
 
All would do fine with the correct ammunition in the hands of a good shot. I would be a little leery of the Ross (I own one) due to the problems with the bolt. Why not a No. 1 Mark III/SMLE and a Tsarist model M1891 to keep them all in the WWI era :D
 
Hunting ammo for any of the choices, as was said above, will be fine. Pick a rifle with a good bore and that has sights you can actually use depending upon age and other factors.
Best,
Rob
 
What's wrong with an 91/30
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Nothing is "wrong" its just the Enfield's bolt is way, way slicker than the M-N is so fast follow up shots (if needed) are much easier to do.

Would you happen to know how much a no.5 costs compared to a No.4?
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In similar (decent) condition I'd say the No5 is about $75~$100 more than a comparable No4.
You could of course use a No4 or even a No1, but you are going to have a heavier, longer rifle for the money.
 
Mosin. Ammo availability is the best and accuracy can be very good. This was from my Wartime 1941 Izhevsk 91/30 with Winchester Softpoint hunting ammo at 75 Yards. I will be hunting with it this year.



If you opt for a straight pull. Get good one (any number of the Swiss Rifles) Not one of those Ross things.
 
I have both 91/30 and m44 carbine nagants. The bolt on the 91/30 is pretty stiff to work, but the m44 is really smooth. The long rifle has slightly less recoil but the carbine would be much more maneuverable if you're going to be in the woods. However, as stated above, don't shoot the carbine near any dry timber or grass. :rolleyes:
 
Which one do you have? Or which is most easily available? Any one of them will kill a deer. And yes, a Yugo M48 would be the best choice.
 
Ross, Mosin, and Enfield are all long (as in big) rifles to tote for deer.

Of the three, the Enfield is the best design & in a good condition sample will offer the best overall quality.

The shorter Yugomausers are lighter & handier, and again in good condition are very good quality & can be quite accurate.

Denis
 
Never had the Ross, but I've had multiple Enfields & Mosins over the years.

Currently, I'd take my No4 MKII with very good sights over any Mosin (including the PU sniper).

The Jungle Carbines were dropped from service due to wandering zero issues.
Today, fakes abound & even if you find a genuine carbine, it may not shoot as well as you'd like.
Denis
 
Oh, it's very real; the rifle's polymer trunnion melts and lets the barrel go all wobbly. Oh right, that's the other rifle with the mythical "wandering zero" ;)

TCB
 
It's not mythical, and it refers to zeroing the rifle to one POI today & next month finding it shoots to a different POI.

I won't argue it, take it or leave it, I could not care less.
I offer it as a consideration, not an argument.
Denis
 
It's not mythical, and it refers to zeroing the rifle to one POI today & next month finding it shoots to a different POI.
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OK, let me make sure I have this right. You're the first (& only) person on the entire internet, who has been able to identify the problem exactly.

First shot clean cold bore goes to point (x) on Monday.

All other shots on Monday group around point (x).

Next time with same settings & same ammo. The first clean cold bore shot goes to Point (x) plus elevation & windage caused by "wandering zero" but groups around that (new) point Point (x) plus elevation & windage.

Is that the definition?
 
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