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doc540

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Just an hour ago and after dark my wife and I were doing our weekly grocery shopping in a large, national chain.

As I was standing by the front door and as my wife was checking out....a young clerk was clearing out the registers and pushing a cart with thousands of dollars in plain sight.

No one seemed the least bit aware of what they were doing or the risk they were taking.

I said a quiet prayer that nothing would develop and I'd have to use the little, stainless Officers I was carrying under my shirt.

Good grief.....operating a business that way sure puts a lot of innocent employees, mostly kids, at a terrible risk.:mad:
 
Common event. At a Major Grocery Store in San Antonio a clerk was carrying a tray loaded with stacks of $20. Some guy stuck a gun in her face and took off with it. If he was ever caught I never heard about it.
 
I agree this practice at the store is not wise. How about contacting the store manager and mentioning your concern?

I would not draw unless I felt the life of the clerk or another innocent person was in danger.
 
Possibly just a lazy clerk. It's not his money and it's all insured anyways, so why bother making all those trips back and forth?

I don't know what store he's working at, but policy often requires one drawer at a time. Since you can only clean one lane at a time, refill one change dispenser at a time, etc, you might as well just carry one drawer at a time.
 
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How about contacting the store manager and mentioning your concern?
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Agreed, however, presumably any losses due to theft/robbery would be covered by insurance, thus the reason most chain stores have a policy of compliance & offering no resistance to robbers. The $ can always be replaced.

When I was a cashier through college I was never robbed, however, if I were my only words to the robber would be to ask if he preferred his money in paper or plastic. Cowardly? Perhaps, but why get killed for what's not mine to begin with. Store policy was that after a shift, cashiers were to carry their (full) drawers to the rear of the store. If someone had intercepted me and demanded the drawer, I would have handed it over and let Loss Prevention sort it out.
 
Daytona Beach FL 20 years ago. I am at the Taco Bell next to my appartment and to speed up the drive thru they have a young female employee standing outside taking orders and making change with wads of cash comic out of her pockets. I kind of knew her from being there often and asked her when she came in if she was comfortable doing this. She wasn't but said she had no choice.

I told the manager he was really putting an employee at risk and he responded that nothing could happen at the drive thru line. I differed but he didn't care. I did ask who did he think was going to stop anything from happening to that kid but he saw no risk. Two months later a former employee and accomplice walked an employee in from dumping trash after closing at gunpoint. 4 or 5 employees were marched in the freezer and shot. Amazingly only one died, another 17 year old girl I knew from going there. The manager I argued with was not there.

The next year the same manager had another kid outside collecting cash. I told the manager he was an idiot and left.
 
"OPM"...other people's money. If they care to be careless with it, I guess that would be their business. If some would be robber decided to heist the bucks, I would most likely stand by and let it happen as long as it looked like no one is going to get hurt or shot. The bad guys just want to make the score and run. I don't feel that I should get myself shot trying to protect money that is insured in the first place. It's not my job nor my duty. And most likely someone would get injured or killed if gunfire erupted.

However, if a BG pulled a gun and looked like he was going to blow some innocent clerk's head off, I would probably find a good defensive position and take the shot. I always spend a percentage of range time doing the hostage target thing after I do all my other drills. I spent years shooting at moving targets when I trained at my Govt. Agency so it would not be something new for me. Not recommended for the novice shooter, however.
 
From my story I probably could have taken it further. It was 20 years ago and I was 21 at the time. The point of my story is some people refuse to see the danger of a situation even when their illusions should have been shatterred.

Any employee should hand over the money, it's not worth their life. The problem is sloppy procedures as described above make a place a more inviting target. One hopes the criminal only wants the cash but their is always the real potential of the situation becoming tragic as I described above. There is no reason to paint a bullseye on a company or employee.
 
employee standing outside taking orders and making change with wads of cash comic out of her pockets
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There are a couple of fast food restaurants that I have frequented in the past that did this but only around lunch time. The outside cashier will easily have $1K - $2K on her at any given time. Talk about easy money for the BGs - drive up with an order and grab the money with the next person and drive off. Even quicker - throw the cashier into the car and drive off without having to wait for the cashier to empty their money apron. :eek:

Amazes me how little some employers give a crap about their employees.
 
No one seemed the least bit aware of what they were doing or the risk they were taking.
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Poor training and most importantly folks walk around the majority of the time in condition WHITE. Thats one of the reasons I don't get all worked up when CCW because 99 1/2 % of the folks don't even see that someone is close by or even within shouting distance.
 
This is exactly what the head clerks at King Soopers (Denver) are taught to do.Always seemed crazy to me but........:confused:
 
I said a quiet prayer that nothing would develop and I'd have to use the little, stainless Officers I was carrying under my shirt.
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Sorry. That just sounds so pretentious.

Cue the music for Mighty Mouse, "Here I come to save the day!"

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I said a quiet prayer that nothing would develop and I'd have to use the little, stainless Officers I was carrying under my shirt.
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I have to ask, are you LE? Just because we CC does not make us "free lance" police officers. If the employee was not in danger of grievous bodily harm and you display/shoot to stop the robbery then perhaps "you" go to jail. At least thats how the laws are here in FLA. Not your money is it and you are hired to protect it. What would you have done if per say someone ran by grabbed the draw off the cart and headed for the door? Pull a gun when no ones life is threatened. Not here. Stop a physical attack, yes.
 
My wife was put at risk.

I was put at risk.

I noticed the risk, raised my awareness level, and left the situation as quickly as possible.

No more, no less.
 
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