Rethinking the FBI Tilt

George Hill

Staff Alumnus
I have seen several folks who believe that holsters need to be tilted forward by as much as 45 degrees.
This whole thing about canting the holster is just out of hand. Literally.
You dont need the gun tilted forward at all in many cases.
I may be going out on a limb here but I think many of us need to do a self check on the way we carry.
The 2 things a holster needs to do is:
1. Protect the gun.
2. Keep the gun in place where it will be available when needed at an instants notice.

With a hogleg canted too far forward it is putting the grip at a different angle than what you hand will be. For a clean, fast and safe draw you hand should naturaly come to the pistol and assume a good solid firing grip while the gun is still holstered. If your having to bend your wrist to do that - its not the right angle for you. Simple as that. The grip should align with your palm in such a way that all you need to do is close your hand and BAM! You got that right grasp on your gun. Solid and Firm.
If the gun is worn as a Police officer - Strong Side directly under the arm, most likely the angle that works best is straight up and down. Many holster makers no longer make a straight up and down rig... This is sad. Many CCW holders carry in the same position - right on the side... yet with the wrong holster or angle of the holster. This is not good.
The FBI Tilt works best when the gun is worn behind the hip. When behind your hip your arm reaching back changes the angle your palm aligns with the gun. Tilting the but of the gun forward lets the grip and your palm align in such a way that lets you get that good grasp on your gun - allowing for a good solid safe and fast draw.
Same thing with cross draw. Look at the way your hand is when it reaches the gun.

All this is important if you want to do a rapid and instinctive draw that lets the gun just leap into your hand. If you have to adjust your grip after you draw your weapon - then something is wrong.
People put a lot of time into Holster selection trying to get a good match of just the right leathers and names to match that favorite pet gun - which is just fine... but not enough thought is actually given to the way the holster will carry the gun.
I recomend getting a holster that allows for forward and back tilting for some testing. Wear that adjustable holster where you would your entended concealable rig and adjust the cant to the angle that allows you to natuarally grasp your gun and draw with out a second thought. A draw should be like a light switch - the gun is OFF - in the holster and ON - in the hand. Between the two should be as minimal as possible.
Once you find that angle - remove the rig and check that angle. However you wear your rig is up to you... but when you go out shopping for a good quality holster I suggest you find one that matches that angle you found. If you have an odd angle or cant find that special holster you want in that angle - there are PLENTY of custom leather makers that can taylor you a custom holster for your pet gun that will fit you and your gun like a glove. THAT is a good match.
Who cares if you have to spend a couple extra bucks for a holster - as long as its JUST RIGHT for you. There is no point in spending a wad of cash for an expensive holster if it doesnt fit YOU.
Take some extra time considering this.
It's well worth it.

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I agree, particularly with a 1911. One of the things I like about a 1911 with a flat mainspring housing is that my wrist remains straight and a straight drop holster allows me to keep my wrist straight through the entire process.
Most revolvers require a bent-wrist grip and an angled holster could be an advantage. I think the FBI Tilt originated way back when they carried revolvers.
You make a good point.

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Ed
 
The place where I find the tilt a big advantage, and actually slightly more tilt than usual helps, is while seated in a vehicle. It is almost impossible for me to draw while seated with a straight drop holster.

I do carry on the hip slightly behind the seam line. Carrying right on the side might change things but an IWB is uncomfortable there.

The tilt also helps to prevent printing while bending or stooping. I've tried both and I'll take the tilt.

Mikey
 
I have found that if I carry IWB just forward of my hip - I avoid many of these complications. Bending is tricky for the CCW holder, as is reaching overhead.
When I am packing CCW and I need to bend, I dont just stoop over - I squat, and come back up with my back straight. This is better for the posture anyways. Ask your Chiropractor. AND it keeps that big 1911 hidden. Reaching? Reach with your non firing hand and keep your strong arm down pinning your shirt or jacket in place.
Depending on where you are - you could just say "Excuse me, mr store clerk - could you get that item for me?"
Or if you must - be blatant and honest... "I gotta get this for you - dont mind my gun - it stays in its holster nice and quite. I got a liscense for it."
 
I find the FBI Tilt indespensible for concealing a large gun. Otherwise the butt prints too much and the gun doesn't stay close enough to my body.
 
I like the vertical scabbard for shorter barrelled guns. I prefer the FBI rake for longer barrels. They are easier to draw from while seated in a vehicle, when set at an angle they are shorter and easier to conceal then when set vertically, I must wear my belt high because I have to 'break' my wrist to draw a long barrel pistol from a vertical scabbard. Yes the vertical scabbard could be cut down in the front to get the gun to clear faster, but moving the gun from 3:00 to 4:30 on the body does allow for easier concealment, which is why all my IWB holsters have a rake regardless of length.
 
I have carried both ways, tilted and vertical. The FBI tilt aids in concealment, though I can pull it off with my vertical hoslter with a little extra thought on my part. Both work well...
 
My IWB rigs are all tilted and I wear them behind the hip, just as they were designed to be worn. They conceal the best for me.

I have a few OWB or belt holsters that I wear behind the hip also. These are all pancake designs and they conceal second best. I find that I must use an outer garmet when carrying this way.

I also have holsters that carry the gun in a straght up, no tilt position. These are the most comfortable and are certainly the easiest to draw from. They are also the most difficult to conceal. I only use them for concealed carry when I am wearing a vest or jacket.

George,

"I have found that if I carry IWB just forward of my hip - I avoid many of these complications."

I have tried this positon and have never made it past my front door. It just isn't comfortable for me, even with a small gun.

[This message has been edited by DMSC (edited April 25, 2000).]
 
IWB in line with the pant seem straight up feels best - but has too much side bulge. Behind the pant seem, pretty much over the right rear pocket, I have to have alot of forward cant to keep the barrel off of the cheek. :)
 
When I pack a large gun that needs that extra aid in getting hidden... packing it well behind the hip greatly aids in keeping it hidden. In such a position the tilt is needed.
 
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