Response from Ruger on the Redhawk

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Ruger called me today. Twice actually.
Some of you might remember my thread about my Redhawk being a bit out of spec. The barrel was squeezed from .4510 down to .4443 through the frame, the cylinder bores were too tight to pass a .4512 bullet without assistance, and the hammer pin hole in the frame was not round and allowed the hammer pin to move a wee bit.
The customer service rep was very polite and told me that the gun was not repairable. She offered me choice of either a new double action gun or a lengthy wait for replacement. Sadly, they did not have another 7-1/2" Redhawk in 45 Colt. There were parts availability issues.
I expressed my appreciation for her offer and explained that I wanted that exact gun. We discussed the fact that it was not a regular production model and she agreed that it must have been a distributor special. Since parts to build a new gun were scarce I asked if it was possible for them to tear my gun down and slide the guts into a new frame. She made a note and offered to investigate that as an option.

About 20 minutes later she called me back. Swapping frames was a non-starter. Apparently, there is some sort of difference between the 44 and 45 frames. I expected them to be the same but I'd never actually measured them side by side. Perhaps the difference is that a serialized frame is already marked for a specific caliber and changing that on a gun that doesn't normally change calibers is an issue. I dunno. Pure speculation there. Whatever the reason, they could not perform the swap. Again, I was offered my choice of currently available double action revolver or a lengthy wait for replacement (emphasis hers). Once more, I politely declined.
The rep said she would try to get my gun shipped back to me today with the promise that I could return it at a later date when the next batch of Redhawks might be back in production. I suggested some time in early 2014 and she agreed.

So, my Redhawk is coming home. I'll play with it a bit more and run the Ruger Death Match once more. The RH and my SRH will slug it out in a side by side comparison to see which one becomes king of the gun safe and which one is sent packing.
If the RH wins, I'll try contacting Ruger next year to see if the insane market conditions have cooled enough for the manufacturers to get caught up.

The conversation did not end the way I would have preferred but the rep was very polite, expressed concern for my wants/needs, and offered multiple options. I can't complain about the exchange. With a background in production management and being currently employed at a premium brand car dealership I know what it's like to have to make phone calls like the one she made to me.

I'll give Ruger a thumbs up for their attempts to satisfy my needs as well as the outcome. Maybe I'll pursue it again after the madness dies down.
 
It's too bad they couldn't help you more immediately.

Their .44 magnum hunter redhawk would have looked really good to me if it was going to take until 2014 to make it right.
 
Cheap, they make guns in batches. Redhawks are cranked out by the ton. When the run is complete they retool and blast out a ton of GPS. After that comes SPs, Blackhawks, etc. It's cyclic and very common in production environments.

NF, I don't care for Taylor throating.
 
Do you care for it less than you care for a Redhawk with a bore constriction that doesn't shoot worth a poot??? Jim states the average improvement is 40-50%. You could try to procure a .357 barrel and have it rebored. What other options do you have other than a custom EDM produced barrel which will cost you several hundred dollars? Seems like a no-brainer to me for the Taylor throating.
 
I would just throw it in the safe and wait for Ruger to make it right. May take a little time but it is well worth it, I love my 7 1/2 Redhawk Hunter.
 
Cheap, they make guns in batches. Redhawks are cranked out by the ton. When the run is complete they retool and blast out a ton of GPS. After that comes SPs,

So they offered you a GP100 or SP101 for your Redhawk?
Think I'd just keep the Redhawk until they could replace the same model.
 
NF, I don't care for Taylor throating. Let me try this again. I do not care for Taylor throating. That is not my only option. I can still work with the gun as-is and wait for the Redhawk production to resume. At that time I can send it back to Ruger for frame replacement.
When we put the gun on a rest it shot tight groups. I'm sure I can learn to shoot the thing and still have a little fun with it.


Cheap, they offered me any double action revolver currently in production. She suggested the 429 Redhawks a couple times but I didn't care to downgrade. I already have a 7-1/2" Super Redhawk in 454 so there's no point in getting another one of those.
I see it as them making a reasonable offer to replace a defective (but still safe to fire) revolver.

Perhaps I should have asked for an Alaskan and flipped it for the cash to buy another Redhawk but I'm not the type of guy to take advantage of a company that is making a reasonable effort to resolve a problem.
 
I take it you don't care for Taylor throating? Thanks for the clarification and the attitude towards folks trying to help YOU with YOUR problem. :rolleyes:
 
Thanks for the update.

Does Ruger have a handle on this problem now or do you still expect this problem to pop up in a certain percent of Redhawks ?

I was going to buy one in 44mag. , but it looks like I will have a long wait and with the restriction problem with Redhawks , I might even wait a little longer.
 
NF, you mentioned it. I said I didn't care for it. You started pushing it. I pushed back.
If I don't care for something then it doesn't matter if they can stand on the 40 yard line and hit a grand slam to win the Stanley Cup. I don't care for it. it's also a bad idea to make drastic irreversible modifications to a gun that I plan on sending back for warranty. The last thing I need is for them to decline repairs because I've had someone perform major modifications on it.
If you like that stuff, good for you. It's simply not a viable solution in this situation. There's also the little thing about me not caring for it.

Redrick, I'm sure the hammer pin problem with this gun is an anomaly. I haven't seen any other Redhawks with a hole goobered up this badly. I don't examine every one I see but there haven't been a rash of complaints. As for the barrel being squeezed down in the frame, that's likely a result of wear on the tooling used to thread the barrel or frame. It did not have an obvious impact on accuracy.
When it comes to the cylinder bores, Ruger is well known for having tight holes on 45 Colt powered guns. It's been happening since they started production. Other calibers do not have that issue.
If you want a Redhawk in 44 I say grab one. They're great guns. If you happen to get the lucky gun like I did you can see that Ruger will do what they can to make it right.

I don't turn my nose up at a company for having a problem with their product. That's a part of manufacturing as well as being part of life. Instead, I rate companies by the way they handle the problems. In this instance, I'll give Ruger a thumbs up for their efforts.
 
I agree it is how they handle the problem . Thanks for reminding of that.

I had a problem with my brand new Dan Wesson and they fixed it right, with no money out of my pocket. I would buy another one because of that.
 
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