Reno refuses to prsecute carjacker who killed 6 year old.

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Reno Refuses to Prosecute Federal Murder of 6 year
Vince Milum
Feb 25 2000 12:48AM
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A SIX-YEAR-OLD BOY DIED DURING A CARJACKING HERE AND JANET RENO AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ARE REFUSING TO PROSECUTE.


Media and Justice Department Compound Missouri Tragedy

On Tuesday, February 22, 2000, the Kansas City area lost a beloved six-year-old child, Jake D. Robel of Blue Springs, Missouri. He was a passenger in a vehicle that was carjacked in Independence, Missouri.

Robel had been riding in the backseat in the early evening when his mother stopped in at a local fast food restaurant. She had left the keys in the ignition (which is not altogether uncommon for this area of the country). While inside, a convict named Kim L. Davis (who was wanted on multiple criminal charges), is alleged to have carjacked the vehicle with the child in it. (This tragedy may have been inadvertently aided and abetted by law enforcement officials as they had delivered the suspect to a location near the crime scene just hours before the crime.)

A chase quickly ensued with citizens of the community overtaking the stolen vehicle and, eventually, subduing the suspect as they waited for a response from the police who had let the wanted suspect go just hours earlier — but not before the poor boy had been dragged to his brutal death.

Soon after the crime, the local Kansas City media played into the hands of area politicians who rushed in to prevent the pursuit of the death penalty for this vicious crime. The county prosecutor insisted that this crime did not rise to the level of a capital offense and the local media either bought it or helped cover up the federal death penalty option. (The Kansas City media are, by and large, opposed to the death penalty.)

Immediately, www.milum.net went into action.

First a call was placed to KCTV-5 which had reported that the death penalty was not an option on both their 5:00pm and 6:00pm broadcasts on Wednesday, February 23, 2000. When we cited facts to the contrary, they told us we were wrong and hung up on us. When we reported that the death penalty was an option to TV-5’s competitors, (WDAF ch.4, KMBC ch.9, and KSHB ch.41), they advised us that they would check out our tip and follow up. (To date, we have heard nothing.)

Next, we contacted the major local papers — The Kansas City Star and the Independence Examiner. Like the broadcast media, they had failed to discuss the federal implications of this carjacking crime and the availability of the death penalty. To date, we have heard nothing from the Examiner, however, on Thursday, February 24, 2000, we received the following e-mail from the Kansas City Star:

Subj: RE: Hello, Federal Prosecutor's Office!

Date: 02/24/2000 9:50:05 AM Central Standard Time

From: mcasey@kcstar.com

We did check with the U.S. Attorney's Office. Here is the answer: The federal carjacking law applies in cases of guns being involved in the crime.

Since there was no gun involved in this case, the federal anti-car theft law does not apply.

Thanks for your interest,

Mike Casey

Later that Thursday, we spoke to Ken Weinfurt of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Missouri. When specifically asked by www.milum.net about the Anti-Car Theft Act of 1992 (which made carjacking a federal offense) and its subsequent amendments in the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 (which made it a crime punishable by death) (Reference: 18 USC Sect. 2119) and the application of that law to this case, Mr. Weinfurt advised that a mutual decision had been reached between U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno and the local federal prosecutor not to seek a federal prosecution citing, as their grounds, insufficient force and violence.

For the record, here is the applicable law. As you will note, there is no discussion of a firearms requirement as alleged by the Kansas City Star and, if they can be trusted, the U.S. Attorney:

[18 USC] Sec. 2119. Motor vehicles

Whoever, with the intent to cause death or serious bodily harm takes a motor vehicle that has been transported, shipped, or received in interstate or foreign commerce from the person or presence of another by force and violence or by intimidation, or attempts to do so, shall —

(1) be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both,

(2) if serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of this title, including any conduct that, if the conduct occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States, would violate section 2241 or 2242 of this title) results, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 25 years, or both, and

(3) if death results, be fined under this title or imprisoned for any number of years up to life, or both, or sentenced to death.


Vince Milum
Lenexa, Kansas
 
No matter how tragic. It, as with many other broken laws, ideally should not be a federal crimes.

[This message has been edited by 6forsure (edited February 27, 2000).]
 
Whether or not a carjacking is a federal offense is really no concern of mine. The fact that he drug a six-year old to his death is reason enough for the death penalty for me. Anyone capable of killing in cold blood does not the deserve the life they have denied another. Just my opinion.

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insufficient force and violence.

You have GOT to be kidding! Dragging a 6 year old behind a truck for 5 miles is not violent? Seems I remember some else being dragged to death behind a truck in Texas last year with a completely different attitude.
 
I have to agree with Caeca, the nicest punishment this POS could get would be death. This is totally pathetic and an embarassing example of what our society has become. I'm sick of our gov deciding that perps have more rights than innocent law-abiding civilians.

This guy already has a record, big surprise, like everything he does isn't "pre-meditated". He already has it in his mind that when he commits his crimes he's not going to let anything stop him, that's premeditation IMHO.

The fact that he got out of the car, looked at the dragged kid, and took off running demonstrates that he's a cold-hearted, unfeeling worthless excuse for a human being. What really sucks is that this whole situation would be totally different if the races were reversed.
 
6forsure is right. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, all laws which are repugnant to the U.S. Constitution are null and void.

The feds have no authority in this area, no matter what's on paper. It's not delegated to them in the Constitution, and it's also specifically reserved to only the states. The "transported, shipped, or received in interstate or foreign commerce . . . " part in the US Code is merely an attempt by Congress to Constitutionally justify their clearly unconstitutional actions.

I'm not defending the suspect here, he should die, it's just not in the Federal Government's power to prosecute him.


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The basis for the argument of the criminals defense is probably that there was no intent to kill the victim, and in fact the carjacker may have had no knowledge that the boy was still attached to the car. It will be argued that in the mind of the carjacker, the boy was successfully ejected from the car before the chase ensued.
Not that this excuses the carjacker for manslaughter, for which he must be held accountable. If this guy is going to be nailed - and I hope he is, it will be because the prosecution is aware of the argument of the defense, and the weakness thereof.
 
While it may be true that the perp had no knowledge the boy was still part of the car he stole. Carjacking, or Grand Theft Auto, is a felony, isn't it?

As I read the original writeup, when he was stopped, and saw the boys body lying by the car(truck), he again tried desperately to flee the scene. Now, isn't there some law that states when there is a situation where another citizen is obviously in need of help, you make every attempt to do that. In Iowa this is the case, especially if you were involved in that vehicular situation.
I'm not sure about Missouri.

Another facet of this is, if there were outstanding warrants on this guy, and he was in the hands of LEO, what the hell happened??Not blaming LEO here, obviously there was one BIG F()CKUP and the kid payed the price.

So then, the death of the boy will be directly, and totally placed on the mother?!!
Since the perp has obviously done nothing wrong here.
I have an idea, how about blaming it on the vehicle! It has the power to accomplish this, because it's evil. It had the motive, the opportunity. All it had to do was wait for the right time to strike. And it had that time when it suckered this guy into climbing into the seat...

Personally, I think Mom&Dad have one mega case with the County Attorneys office here. If they had been doing their job, the guy would have been held, and this would never happened.
How about throwing their a$$es in jail for wrongful death. Waddaya think??

Best Regards,
Don


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[This message has been edited by Donny (edited February 27, 2000).]
 
In Florida, if someone dies during the comission of a crime, even if it's one of the perp's, the remaining perp's can be charged with 1st degree murder. Doesn't matter whether intent was there or not. Silly me, I just rather took it for granted this was sort of universal...

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While I agree that the suspect should be rehabilitated through reincarnation (something about meeting Jesus, Allah, the Buddha, Great Spirit, Zeus, or whatever else he may be called does wonders for purifying the human soul), I don't think the Fed. Carjacking Law applies either.

If like robbery, the theft needs to be accomplished through "force or fear" and in the presence of the victim, carjacking would apply. Here, the mother is reported to have stepped into a fast food restaurant. The theft was accomplished neither through force nor fear. Further, she wasn't present. Hence, no carjacking.

However, under the old common law, death which results during the commission of a dangerous felony, here a kidnapping was involved, provides sufficient malice for murder. This guy needs to die.

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Supposedly, the mom yelled at him to let him
get the kid in some accounts. If this is true, then he knew what he was doing.

Also, I don't know their laws but in some places a death caused in a crime is capital murder.
 
As a prosecutor, I dont give a rats @$$ what the reason for the murder, I will seek the death penaly.

The difference between me and the other guys, is that I am a God fearing, family loving, conservative Texan who believes in the death penalty.

I am NOT some liberal panty waist who is afraid of offending some group because of their race, religion or ethnic orgin. I treat everyone the same.

Here is my bottem line, you beak the law in my juristiction and I will personally see to it that you are charged, indicted and convicted.

I find it par for the course with all the liberals that I know in the justice ( and i use that term loosely) department. Hell most of them are believing that Klinton is an innocent man and that criminals are God's chosen people and are just misunderstood by society.

Until America wakes up and puts some real men in the white house, and on the judicial bench, then I am afraid that the criminals will have the run of things.

Just ask yourself this question. Can you name any of the victims of Sam Bass, Bonnie and Clyde, Jesse James, or the Younger Brothers? I fear that most of you can not. The reason is the media and hollywood has glorified the criminal element in our society and forgot about the victims. It has been subtle over the years but the seed is planted and our minds are bombarded with images of the bad guys as heros. The white hat is considered old fashion. The bad guy is what sells.

American has got to get its priorities straight before it is too late. We need to bring back Jesus and the Good Lord to our schools. We need to make it acceptable to be straight, hetersexual and conservative. We need to be held to a higher standard, instead of the other way around.

Well that is enough of my high horse. May the Good Lord in his wisdom and mercy, grant each of us the dignity and the will to stand in the face of our enemies and proclaim Him King.

Godbless you all.

Judge Blackhawk
 
How dreadful, this poor misguided man was raised by a crack ho mother who didn't have a clue who the baby father may have been. The same thing for his half dozen or so other siblings from other litters his mother dropped through the years. The bottom line is this cretin is an animal and deserves to die for his terrible crime. You gotta love that one about rehabilitation through reincarnation, now that sounds like a plan to me...7th

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MO. does not have a CCW and from what I understand there is great political pressure against CCW, despite the wishes of the citizens.

Anyone remember Jasper, Texas? Anyone want to tell me that we're not seeing racial bias? Will Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson feel this family's pain? Will Tom,Dan & Peter be doing any special reports on this murder?

Time to feed the pigs, folks.
 
The State of Missouri will be able to take care of this matter quite nicely. No need of Janet Reno's help. I find this quite comforting.
Unfortunately it will take a long time. I doubt if the trial will take place within two years. If he gets the death penalty, I would not be surprised if it take 15 years.
Concealed Carry, which barely failed in Missouri at a public vote last year, should have had a derterrent effect on just this type of car jacking crime, though we can never really know if it would have prevented this particular crime. Kansas City, where the crime took place, was one of the few areas of the state where an majority of people voted against concealed carry.
 
Originally posted by 4V50 Gary:
I don't think the Fed. Carjacking Law applies either.
If like robbery, the theft needs to be accomplished through "force or fear" and in the presence of the victim, carjacking would apply.


If the child was in the car and a member of the family he could be considered de facto agent of the family for the purposes of determining the presence of a victim . To take , steal and carry away ,with intent to deprive the family of real property this childs inheritance would have been deminished by the value of the vehicle and it's contents .

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The assertion that the mother was not present is incorrect. She was dragged by the carjacker through the parking lot, until she could hold on no longer. She repeatedly screamed at that Democrat to please stop just long enough for her to untangle her son. He just kept screaming for her to get away from the car.

The reason that there'll be no federal prosecution is plainly that the Democrats wouldn't dare incite the African-American voter base, whom they MUST have to get elected. If you think that the life of a child is more important to the Democrats than the upcoming election, then you are pretty naive.
 
Ol "El Reno" just doesn't like kids. Her track record and Waco prove that.
Walter is right. To democrats power is everything and no cost is to great to maintain same. They all operate under a dual moral standard where they can do as they please while the teeming masses are expected to toe the line.

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