Remington Subsonic .22

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I saw for sale Remington Subsonic .22 rounds, which are 38 grain hollow-points. Does anyone have any experience with these rounds? Do they work in semi-autos? I have a Ruger Mark II that I use for small varmint control outside of city limits, and our dog gets seriously worked up when he hears a gun fire, so these subsonic rounds seem to be just the ticket. Any comments? http://www.remington.com/AMMO/PAGES/RIMFIRE/22rfammo.htm#Cal Rimfire
 
I haven't tried this particular breed of subsonics, but I have tried others and read a bit about the Remingtons. They are supposed to be able to cycle any auto. However, the subsonic rounds I have shot were not quiet out of an automatic or a pistol. To notice a difference, you usually need a single shot/bolt action rifle or a supressor (legally obtained, of course).
 
CB rounds are also available in .22 and are quieter still. CCI makes some. They will not cycle the action, or even open the bolt, on a Ruger MkII. I use them in my backyard. They sound like a door slammed hard.

Good luck,

Ledbetter
 
I like the CCI CB's a lot. They have one called the CB short which is just a .22 short, then they have a CB long that is exactly the same ballistically only in a long case. They are fairly quiet and very accurate out of my MK II and my Winchester 9422. In the rifle, there is absolutely no kick and they are so quiet (I was wearing hearing protection) that the first time I ever fired one, I thought it misfired. I had to check the case coming out of the gun to see if the thing even fired and it did. They are my new favorite close range squirrel round. Quiet and deadly.

Good shooting.
 
If they are small varmits, chipmunk - rat size, you may want to try Aguilla Colibri ammo. No gunpowder only a primer. Virtually soundless from a rifle. Same sound as a pellet gun from a pistol or revolver depending on barrel length. About the same effect as from a .177 CO2 gun in terms of velocity and weight. Coles Distributing sells it. It will not cycle an auto.
 
My experience with them has been that they are quiet and accurate. Great for squirrels, rabbits and other similar sized varmits. They did not cycle my Ruger MKII but I'm such a good shot that all I need is one. ;) If you believe that I've got some more to tell you.

They work great with a bolt action .22!!

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The Colibri rounds only have about 6 ft-lb of energy which seems a bit weak to me. However, Aguila has now come out with one they call the Super Colibri. They fire the same 20 gr bullet at 575 fps for a resulting energy level of almost 15 ft-lb. This is slightly better than what a .22 Benjamin air rifle is capable of. Definitely enough for squirrels out to about 30 or 40 yards. I would imagine the sound level is about the same as the Benjamin also. Not quiet but definitely no need for hearing protection. Out of a handgun they will probably be slightly louder.

BTW, I've seen the Colibri and Super Colibri for sale at Cole-Distributing.

Good shooting.
 
The Remington .22 subsonics are not significantly quieter than standard velocity .22 rounds. I'd try the CCI CB Long or the Aguila Super Colibri if you need to shoot small varmints quietly.
 
I fired 100 of the Remington Subsonics a few days ago. I would not call them quiet. Maybe a little less noisy than standard ammo. I think I even heard the supersonic crack some of the time. I was using a Marlin bolt action. Maybe a homeade suppressor will help. Is that legal?
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Maybe a homeade suppressor will help. Is that legal?[/quote]

If you go through the full NFA tax and paperwork shuffle, it's perfectly legal. If not, well... remember Waco? :eek:
 
Greetings,

Matt VDW is right. Soon we will be paying the full NFA tax on all soda pop purchased in plastic bottles.

Regards,

Ledbetter
 
I am looking for a round that would cycle the action of a Mark II. IF I should miss (doesn't happen very often, but I like to be prepared, you know ;) ), I would like a quick followup shot without having to manually cycle the action. I wish a supressor was an option at this time, but it isn't.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>I am looking for a round that would cycle the action of a Mark II. [/quote]

I doubt that you'll find anything really quiet that has enough power to cycle a Mk II. Sorry.

How about a nice .22 revolver? ;)
 
I use the Remington Subsonics in my MKII all the time. They are not quiet though. I use them because they are standard velocity and are cheaper than the "target" grade .22's - They are pretty quiet out of .22 rifles though, especially bolt actions. They are reasonably quiet in my 10/22 too. Barrel length makes a big difference in noise level.
 
OK, I'll go with the fact that I won't find a quiet round that will cycle the action of a Mark II. It looks like the CCI CB Longs or the Aguila Colibri. I haven't tried it, but do the CB Shorts work in the magazine, or do they need to be fed single-shot style?
 
The CB's are a single round loading deal. Even the CB longs won't feed right for me if I load more than four in the magazine and work the action manually.

Regards,

Ledbetter
 
Greetings from Finland. I've used the Rem .22 Subsonics in both my Browning Buckmark and my Anshutz bolt-action rifle with an integral suppressor. They work just fine with the pistol, but unsuppressed, there is no great reduction of sound to other .22LR rounds. As for the rifle, well, it seems the Remingtons are loaded a little uneven. Approximately half of them go supersonic. So if you want to use especially subsonic rounds, ie. you have a suppressed .22, I'd suggest looking somewhere else. (Lapua has a subsonic hollowpoint round that works like a charm and groups pretty good too at 50 meters.) Other than that, the Remington does make a nice, cheap training round.

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Tony S.

Why be normal?
 
My experience with subsonics in handguns and rifles has been that they really only live up to their potential in rifles. In handguns, there's too much unburned powder when the bullet departs, and they are noisier than you'd think. In rifles, however, hardly a peep.
 
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