Remington older .257 Roberts ---

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I've found an older Remington 721 in a .257 Roberts cal. with 24 inch
barrel and no sights with a custom stock. It's about 90% condition,
nice bore. Isn't that a little rare as I thought they only made them
in the 722 model ? I'm trying to decide on it for $450.
Thanks for the help
 
a 722 barrel in 257 roberts may have been put on the longer 721 action, it would let you use longer bullets and bring the 257 roberts to its full potional. the short 722 action puts a crimp in the 257 roberts potional. its not a collector any more, but at 450 it may be a good buy if you want a roberts. eastbank.
 
That's an obsolete plain push feed in an unpopular cartridge. I wouldn't take it for nothing.
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What is obsolete about it?

If it works, and works as well, or better, than what Marketing is pushing this week, what's "obsolete" about it?
 
Savage, it is about as obsolete as any other Bolt action. I guess the 96 an 98 Mauser is obsolete as well. 257 Roberts is a nice little hunting cartridge.
 
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Savage:If the OP was asking about an early Savage 99 in .250 savage,would your response be the same?
 
Remington 721 ---

Thanks for all the answers.
The barrel is original Remington not a custom.
I wonder if it came from the factory that way or could have been
changed from a 722 model as was suggested. I don't know how
to tell for sure. I've noticed a couple of them in .257 Roberts
going for fairly high dollars.
Thanks
 
Hi BC

You wrote: "Savage:If the OP was asking about an early Savage 99 in .250 savage,would your response be the same? "

Well the Savage 99's are control round feed! :)

Both are old obsolete cartridges. Many of the 250's had a slow 1-14" twist!

Both are a little too big for chucks ricochet wise and small for big game.

Besides being obsolete!
 
Remington 721 & 722 actions ---

Forgot to mention that I can remember my Uncle talking about
a .244 Remington on the 721 long action years ago.
He passed away about 4 months ago at 93.
He could probably have some good info on it as he had one of the
first .22-250 rifles built up on a VZ-24 action & Douglas barrel
back when you had to made the cases out of the .250-3000 brass.
He liked the longer actions for seating the bullets out farther as was
mentioned above by Eastbank.

Thanks
 
to each his own, but i would not own a finger pinching, poor extracting, rear locking, non adjustable trigger that you can,t easily take apart to clean rifle that they didn,t change over it,s life time that they don,t make any more. another biggy the 99 action was never good enough to get the the rifle matches let alone win. so you can have all the springy actioned two piece stocked, short cartige chambered 99,s. hows that for running down some ones rifle they like. but i never would do that in real life. eastbank.
 
My brother has one. He loves the .257 Roberts cartridge and bought it to replace an older tang safety Ruger 77 in 257 that shot like a shotgun. He loves it and it is a tack hammer.
 
a 722 barrel in 257 roberts may have been put on the longer 721 action, it would let you use longer bullets and bring the 257 roberts to its full potional. the short 722 action puts a crimp in the 257 roberts potional.
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For a long time, I had a hard time locating a barrel maker that made a barrel with the 721's profile (including the rear sight "hump") ..... so I bought another 721 just for the barrel.
 
in the last few years rem made the 721 the 700 rem was also being made and when they ran out of 721 barrels they used rem 700 barrels. i bought a rem 721 in .280 rem with a rem 700 barrel with out the rear sight bump in the early 60,s. they didn,t make many and a collector paid me good money to get it. eastbank.
 
The .257 Roberts, as well as the .244/6mm Remington, are based on the 7x57mm Mauser cartridge case and is a flat-shooting round with most bullets suited for the round and is well-suited for antelope and deer, but a bit "light" for elk and moose in most situations.

The Remington Model 722 has a 1:10 twist barrel which should handle even the heaviest 115 to 120 grain bullets available in .257 inch diameter, so the heaviest bullet isn't a problem. However, the normal magazine length in a Remington 722 can only handle cartridge lengths up to 2.75 inches unless it is modified which usually means the heavier .257 bullets must be seated more deeply in the cartridge case than is needed for best accuracy performance, even if the chamber has a long, deeper throat needed for best accuracy.

Because the Roberts is based on the 7x57mm Mauser cartridge case, the action needed for the .257 Roberts should be a tad longer than the regular short Remington 722 action. Of course, that problem goes away if you have a custom-altered Model 722 with a slightly longer magazine and a long chamber throat to accommodate the longer, heavier bullets (115-120 grain) seated out to their longest length for best accuracy if you use 'em.

However, if the rifle which you are considering can handle a .257 Roberts cartridge with the heaviest bullets like the 115 or 120 grain Nosler Partition Bullet set out at normal length through both the rifle's magazine and chamber's longer throat, then it's a great buy for fine accuracy and even the largest deer.

While Ned Robert's little package is "dynamite" with lighter bullets like those in the 87 grain bullet weights with muzzle velocities in the 3,100 to 3300 fps range using maximum "book" loads of IMR3031 and IMR4064 and the 100 grain bullets still have a "hefty" muzzle velocity in the 2900 fps to almost 3,000 fps range with maximum loads of IMR3031, IMR4064 or BL-C(2), the heavier 115 grain to 120 grain bullet's muzzle velocity drops off drastically... down to the 2600-2700 fps range at best.

And so, for best performance, the 100 grain bullet is about the heaviest bullet that maintains the reasonably high muzzle velocity required for maximum bullet energy delivered to the game together with very good flat-shooting characteristics and fine accuracy.

While there are higher-velocity, flatter-shooting examples of the .257 caliber (the .25/06 or .257 Weatherby Magnum), the "mystic" of the .257 Roberts can't be denied. :)


Strength & Honor...

Ron T.
 
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450.00 ($) for a 721 in 257 Roberts. Why not be the only'est one on the block owning such a creature. Mauser 7mm brass squeezed to a Quarter Bore. A fine example of a cartridge ridding the fence between a 243 and 7mm-08. Just a thought now. Have its chamber opened to Ackley Improved. Then you'll have a rifle quite different in performance. "a mini-me to the Weatherby" Frankly sir a 721 graded at 90% in a Roberts for 450.00 I would have to say is indeed a reasonable price. No doubt it is a old cartridge. But a good one for getting the job done in the woods or up in those Rocky Mountains also.:)
 
Rem 257

Back in 60s I bought a 722 in 257r with no bolt. Several years later had smith
fit bolt to it. I think it was 700 bolt. Kept it that way for several years then had
bull barrel, single shot, 6mm made up on it. Good rifle, shot many a g-hog
with it. I have a 722 in 222 now, was bought new and wouldn't trade in for a
new 700.
 
Been awhile, but faintly recall a post concerning the Remington 721 in 257 Roberts. Essentially, the post told story of it being one of the favorite rifles the Remington employees making rifles would buy for themselves. Certainly do not know if this is true, but do know I like the 257 Roberts cartridge and have 4 rifles in this cartridge. Would be tempted to buy a 721 in 257R for $450 if I came across one.
 
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