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Is the new Remington HD handgun ammo really any different than their Golden Sabre line? The specs for the rounds are exactly the same. I have even gone on the website to see if I could find a description difference and had no luck. Does anyone have any insight on this?
 
Looks to be the same to me, Im sure there is a minor difference somewhere. Its an easy way to to give it a fancy new box and up the price a couple bucks.
 
The golden sabers are not worth the price in my book, there horribly underpowered and burn dirtier than any other ammo I have ever used, from their .22's up to centerfire. This goes for all remington ammunition by the way not just golden sabers, my guns get dirtier with 100 rounds of remington than 500 rounds of say CCI's.
 
The golden sabers are not worth the price in my book, there horribly underpowered and burn dirtier than any other ammo I have ever used, from their .22's up to centerfire. This goes for all remington ammunition by the way not just golden sabers, my guns get dirtier with 100 rounds of remington than 500 rounds of say CCI's.
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Wow! When did Remington come out with Golden Sabers in .22? I even checked their site and couldn't find it.

I know nothing about Golden Saber .22 ammo but I strongly disagree with you about the centerfire, defensive ammo I have shot. The .45 acp Golden Sabers have always been full powered ammo and was the first .45 ammo to meet the FBI testing protocols -- expansion and penetration in ballistic gel. I never really noticed that it was dirtier than any other ammo but it's really pricey to shoot 100 rounds at a time through my 1911s.

I also don't care if my gun gets dirty if I ever have to shoot a bad guy. Hopefully, it won't take a hundred rounds to stop him.
 
I personally don't like Remington ammo. Their 22's all perform poorly in my guns, and the UMC bulk stuff doesn't group any better than Wolf, or run any cleaner for that matter.
But the Golden Sabers are actually some of my favorite hp's. GS's have performed well out of all my handguns.
It does appear that they are trying to re-package them and sell them as HD's...:rolleyes:
Lately my favorite ammo is the Winchester PDX stuff.
 
In my experience, Remington 22lr ammo is the worst on the market. I like their centerfire, though - both handgun and rifle. And the Golden Sabers are definitely good stuff.
 
I agree that the remington .22 is junk but golden sabers dont seem underpowered and dirty like dragline45 stated. I would state quite the opposite. They perform very well in my semi auto and arent dirty at all. I have used hundreds of remington mc55gr. in my .223 and its not dirty either. Its actually one of the few lower priced fmj rounds that are good rounds. I dont buy remington .22lr anymore becouse its not reliable. I use remington cor-lokt in my .243 and 30-06 with great results. Its not dirty and its pretty accurate for the price. Cant beat it IMHO.
 
I've used Golden Sabre defensive ammunition in some of the major defensive calibers over the years (9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .38 Spl +P & .357 Magnum). I've always received good performance from them, whether bought at my own expense or as issued ammunition.

I have noticed that they tend to send off "sparklers" (burning embers) in the muzzle blast at times, at least in a couple of the pistol calibers, which are most noticeable during low light shooting, and they seem to be as "dirty" as less expensive bulk-type loads. Neither condition really bothers me.

I haven't asked the Rem LE distributor about their new GS loads packaged as the "HD" line (since we don't use them, but have been buying the standard GS line in 3 pistol calibers for duty ammunition the last few years).

I was reading on one of the forums, though, where someone claimed they had contacted Rem to ask about it. They reported being told by Rem that it was a less expensive line because it didn't use their normal sealant on the bullets inside the case mouth or around the primer cup. Maybe they don't expect folks using it as "HD" ammunition will need the extra water proofing offered by their sealant. Dunno.

If the info is accurate, maybe they simply thought they'd save money by dropping a step during production. I could see potentially see the thought process that might result in less perceived need for "HD" ammunition to have the same resistance to water contamination that would be considered a benefit for duty & hunting ammunition (exposed to harsher, more variable climate conditions).

I obviously can't vouch for the accuracy of what was posted, nor did I contact Rem to confirm it.
 
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