Thanks guys. The stock length of the Benelli makes it a non-starter for me. If it can't be shortened (sorry, I have no desire to do the surgery myself), it's the Rem 870 pure and simple. Otherwise, I think I would opt for the Benelli. Now I just have to find a good deal on an 870P. My dealer can get me one with a wood stock and bead front sight for around $450 but I am going to shop around and there are a few gun shows coming up in July. In the meantime, if you hear about or spot a good deal, please let me know.