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Remington 710
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Mike Kilo Niner
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Funny you should mention it... the latest copy of American Rifleman arrived today with a article on the Rem 710. Basically, they set out to manufacture a good "starter" rifle on the cheap. The authors were pretty impressed in describing the synthetic stock with integral (plastic) trigger guard, unhardened receiver and cast bolt body. The only high-strength steel is in the bolt face and the barrel. The bolt locks into the barrel, which is press fit into the receiver (no barrel changes, for what that's worth).
It grouped around 2 inches @ 100yds and was considered fairly handy. Weighs a little more than 8 pounds, with a Bushnell 3-9x scope on it.
They really talked it up, but things like "silver soldering" don't really impress me in choosing a rifle to depend on for generations. Read the article for yourself -- it had plenty of pictures and more detail than my quick summary. Best of luck!
It grouped around 2 inches @ 100yds and was considered fairly handy. Weighs a little more than 8 pounds, with a Bushnell 3-9x scope on it.
They really talked it up, but things like "silver soldering" don't really impress me in choosing a rifle to depend on for generations. Read the article for yourself -- it had plenty of pictures and more detail than my quick summary. Best of luck!
I got to handle one this past weekend. It was ok
(didn't feel cheap and fragile) except for the
bolt. Since it isn't oiled metal-to-metal, but
rather metal-to-plastic, there was quite a lot of
friction (though not grit). Personally, I like
the smoothness of working the bolt, so this would
immediately knock it out of the running for me.
Howard
(didn't feel cheap and fragile) except for the
bolt. Since it isn't oiled metal-to-metal, but
rather metal-to-plastic, there was quite a lot of
friction (though not grit). Personally, I like
the smoothness of working the bolt, so this would
immediately knock it out of the running for me.
Howard
If you're looking for a gun to modify, accurize, and has the ability to be worked on then I'd run away from the 710 in a hurry.
I've talked with a few custom smiths who build high quality benchrest or precision rifles and they have expressed no interest in working with the 710.
Now, if you want a rifle that will be a "truck gun" or perhaps a "trunk gun" then the 710 might serve well. In my mind I see it as a cross between a Steyr Scout and a Savage, it has the plastic stock and detachable magazine of the Steyr while being priced like a Savage. The 710 looks like it would be a rather worry free rifle.
Although, on another forum where the 710 was brought up there was a person who had a 710 in his shop that broke it's bolt handle when he tried to work the action. He noted the seemingly stiff action when one cycles the bolt.
I've talked with a few custom smiths who build high quality benchrest or precision rifles and they have expressed no interest in working with the 710.
Now, if you want a rifle that will be a "truck gun" or perhaps a "trunk gun" then the 710 might serve well. In my mind I see it as a cross between a Steyr Scout and a Savage, it has the plastic stock and detachable magazine of the Steyr while being priced like a Savage. The 710 looks like it would be a rather worry free rifle.
Although, on another forum where the 710 was brought up there was a person who had a 710 in his shop that broke it's bolt handle when he tried to work the action. He noted the seemingly stiff action when one cycles the bolt.
I just checked the Remington website for the 710 the suggested retail price of $428.00. The 700 ADL suggested price is $468.00. I bought a 700 ADL for $340.00 at a Kmart near my home. Granted it did not come with a scope, but I done see the value in the 710 compared to the value of a 700 based off of the Suggested Retail Price or the features of the 710.
I was looking into the 710 myself. I talked to a few gunsmiths and gun store owners and they all said the same thing. On the 710 the bolt handle is sttached in a way that makes it very likely that it will fall off. Remmington used that process on one of their older lines inexpensive rifles and their bolt handles fell off constantly.
Just passing on the info,
-Fuzzy
Just passing on the info,
-Fuzzy
I give remington credit for adding a cheaper product the the lineup. It is not what I am interested in, but for many folks that fire 10 - 30 rounds a year thru a gun for deer hunting or to do just a small amount of practice on paper the gun coming with a scope is an ok deal. I saw the post about the price difference but what was lost was the 710 coming with rings and the scope at that price. I like leopold products and added 350 dollars to the cost of my ruger 10-22 with the rings and scope. For me and I assume many of you... the quality is the issue. Most of us on these boards are not mainstream in the gun community. We are the real hard core types that may own 10 great guns and not just one to hunt a week out of the year. I see a real place for this new rifle . but it is not going to be most of us. Every person that buys a gun is now a potential voter that will recognize pro - gun rights and responsibility as applying to them. We need more gun owners in a hurry in this country , not less. Every time we take a coworker to the range and they end up buying a 10-22 or marlin 30-30 or ruger buckmark .22 to plink with it is a victory for us. This rifle can only help the process.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Quantico hit it right on the head. This gun was designed specifically for "...folks that fire 10 - 30 rounds a year thru a gun for deer hunting..." Nothing wrong with that.
However, it's still about the same price as a Savage package gun, and the Savage is probably a gun for the same $$$$. Mine shot into an inch at 100 right out of the box and I'm no Ad Topperwein.
Quantico hit it right on the head. This gun was designed specifically for "...folks that fire 10 - 30 rounds a year thru a gun for deer hunting..." Nothing wrong with that.
However, it's still about the same price as a Savage package gun, and the Savage is probably a gun for the same $$$$. Mine shot into an inch at 100 right out of the box and I'm no Ad Topperwein.
if you want a cheap rifle there are alot better firles out there than savage.
just my ,2 worth.
the remington 710 was orig suppose to be $299 retail.this would have made it the bargain of the century but then remington got greedy.i think they would have been putting savage out of the bussiness if they whould have gone that route.
btw dealer cost is only 310 so expect the discount shops to be selling them that soon.
[Edited by gunmart on 03-29-2001 at 03:53 PM]
just my ,2 worth.
the remington 710 was orig suppose to be $299 retail.this would have made it the bargain of the century but then remington got greedy.i think they would have been putting savage out of the bussiness if they whould have gone that route.
btw dealer cost is only 310 so expect the discount shops to be selling them that soon.
[Edited by gunmart on 03-29-2001 at 03:53 PM]
nedfig,
they buy into a program at the beggining of each year (it cost them $50,000 up front)that allows them to buy at jobber cost.it is ususally around 5% to 15% off of dealer depending on the item.that is how they can sell them for $10 over dealer.they are probably making about $50 bucks on that rifle.
they buy into a program at the beggining of each year (it cost them $50,000 up front)that allows them to buy at jobber cost.it is ususally around 5% to 15% off of dealer depending on the item.that is how they can sell them for $10 over dealer.they are probably making about $50 bucks on that rifle.
gunmart - so the Remington 710 must be better than the Savage just because it has the "Remington" label? That's pretty goofy logic.
Even at $320 with the scope, the 710 is only $30-40 cheaper than the Savage package guns and from what I read here, there may be some quality issues with the 710.
I don't think I'll be trading in my Savage any time soon.
By the way, who makes rifles you mention that are much better than the Savage but for the same price? My local gun stores don't seem to carry any of these.
Even at $320 with the scope, the 710 is only $30-40 cheaper than the Savage package guns and from what I read here, there may be some quality issues with the 710.
I don't think I'll be trading in my Savage any time soon.
By the way, who makes rifles you mention that are much better than the Savage but for the same price? My local gun stores don't seem to carry any of these.
take a look at the howa they run a little less than the savage.also i just spotted a weatherby composite at wal mart for $369.that has to be a bargain.
no the remington 710 is not better than the savage 110 just because it says remington.i have talked to a gun wrighter that i know personally and i trust his off the column opinion and he tells me the 710 will do what a hunter needs to get done.(a target gun its not).its strong its sturdy and it points real well he added.
i personally like the remington and sako actions but to each his own.
no the remington 710 is not better than the savage 110 just because it says remington.i have talked to a gun wrighter that i know personally and i trust his off the column opinion and he tells me the 710 will do what a hunter needs to get done.(a target gun its not).its strong its sturdy and it points real well he added.
i personally like the remington and sako actions but to each his own.