remington 700 adl vs weatherby vangaurd?

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i am trying to decide between a remington 700 and a weatherby vangaurd in 308
it will be used for whitetail in tennessee. anybody have any personal preferences or suggestions? which do you think is better? i know that the 700 has 2 locking lugs on the bolt while the vangaurd has 3. any other major differences?
 
That Vanguard trigger is better than the 700's, plus that Vanguard is deadly accurate.
I have shot both and I own a Vanguard, it's heavier than the 700 for sure, but all that weight's in the barrel.
I'd pick a Vanguard between those two without hesitation.;) And if you can adjust that trigger to your liking, put a Timney on it.
 
I've owned both rifles in 30-06 and they both performed well. I adjusted the older model 700 trigger where it was the best of the two but, the Vanguard had much less felt recoil of the two. I think it might have been the lightest kicking 30-06 I've ever shot but both were very accurate. :)
 
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If you prefer the feel of the 700 I recommend buying an older used one from before The Freedom Group bought big green. I had a 1997 700 ADL in 3006 that was a great rifle, but had to send two new Rem rifles back to the factory last year. If you like two stage triggers check out the Vanguard S2.
 
Isn't the Vanguard build in Japan around a Howa action? I had a Howa 1500 which was a very accurate rifle. Wish I still had it.
 
The 700 action is hard to beat. I owned a vanguard for a season chambered in 270 wsm. I liked it ok. But not enough to keep it. I have yet to sell or trade a 700. I currently have 4 in the safe. The vanguard was solid and accurate enough to hunt deer with. Just didn't have any nastalgia attatched to it that generally goes with a classic American rifle like the Rem 700 or Win 70
 
That Vanguard trigger is better than the 700's, plus that Vanguard is deadly accurate.
I have shot both and I own a Vanguard, it's heavier than the 700 for sure, but all that weight's in the barrel.
I'd pick a Vanguard between those two without hesitation. And if you can adjust that trigger to your liking, put a Timney on it.
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The Vanguard I dry fired in the store had the grittiest, creepy, long travel trigger that I have ever pulled. And that was the model where their advertisement said they go over each trigger. Bah. The Remington I dry fired in the store was one of the best triggers I've pulled (other then a premium Timney or Jewel trigger).
 
If you get a Vanguard, make sure to get the series 2 and not left over series 1. They made several improvements including a 2 stage trigger. Mine has an awesome trigger and was very accurate right out of the box.
 
I have a remington 700 ADL that I inherited from my father and I bought a weatherby vanguard from my brother a couple winters ago(we like to keep guns in the family). this is kindof comparing apples to broccoli since one is in 243 and the other is 300 weatherby mag but between the two, I like the ergonomics of the wood stock on the 700 to the(what I'm guessing is) fiberglass/polymer stock on the weatherby. both are more than accurate enough for hunting rifles and both have very smooth actions with the weatherby's being nicer. the major drawback the weatherby has over the remington is weight but again, it's firing a round that's about 3 times as powerful as the remington.

if you are looking at it economically, the vanguard II is cheaper and is guaranteed to be MOA out of the box, the remington 700 is not though I doubt that it would be much worse than the vanguard.
 
Vanguard S1 vs S2

Compare the price difference between the two versions before you buy.

You can add a Timney to the S1 for about $100 and adjust it all you want. That's what I had to do to my S1 Vanguard.

The S2 version has a new two stage trigger which everyone has raved about.
 
Like most things in life--it's mostly a matter of opinion. I would be hard pressed to make a decision between the two. I own 11 VGX Vanguards, and 3 older model 700's. All of them shoot moa. The "out of the box trigger" was better on the Rems., but I found accuracy to be more consistant with the Weatherbys. The Weatherbys are heavier, but as mentioned by someone else--the felt recoil seems to be less in the vanguards. In the "wood" stocks its a toss up which one is better looking. For many years I felt that the Rem. took the lead, but having incured the "VGX" bug, I will give the nod to the Weatherby's. The "Sub-MOA composite, and the B&C stocks on the varmint Weatherbys surpass the Rems. Having said all that, my SPS model 700 in .308win. is a "one hole" shooter--always! So go figure. Just run what ya brung!
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I have a Vanguard in .300 Win short mag and a Model 700 laminated stock in 06--my first Vanguard and my sixth 700--had 700's for years and they have all shot accurately, the 06 is very accurate, but the test target that came with the vanguard was just one ragged hole just a bit off center---the gun store owner said if it shoots as well as the test target, keep it forever--it is truely one of the most accurate rifles I've ever owned---as far as looks, it's very hard to beat the Remingtons--in my humble opinion, the BDL is just about the best looking rifle out there, but both have a beautiful stock. I've also been lucky on the triggers, just haven't had one so bad I had to install an aftermarket---the comments on the felt recoil are right on, the Vanguard is a little heavier but the recoil between it and the 06 feels about the same to me--both are easy to shoot. I envy you your choice, you can't go wrong with either one, both are "keepers"-------John
 
I've worked on many different rifles, either adjusting triggers, doing bedding, etc. and fired lots of different brands and models.

My favorite moderately-priced rifles are, in order: Rem 700, Tikka 595, Winchester 70, and Weatherby Vanguard. The Tikka T-3 is also nice, but not as nice as the 595 was.

The Vanguard would move up a bit if it wasn't so heavy and seemingly bulky for a carry rifle.

The Win. 70 trigger is just OK; not as nice as the Remingtons and Tikka that I have.
 
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