Remington 700 Action Question

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JohnDog

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I had a question about the actions Remington uses for their stock "target" rifles (i.e. Sendero, VS, etc.). Is there any difference between them and the regular BDL and ADL actions? (excluding things like floorplates and finishes) I was wondering if any special steels were used, or special treatments. I guess while I'm asking, how about the action used for the Model-40s that come out of the Custom shop?

Thanks - JohnDog
 
Steel & Heat Treatment

While I can't positively say there's no difference--ya gotta as Mr. Remington--I don't see any reason. Any particular alloying of what really is not all that exotic a steel is cut-and-dried, as is the heat treat.

And don't forget we're in the era of product liability...

:), Art
 
FWIW, the older Remington single shot target rifles had no opening for the magazine, to keep the action stiffer. I don't know if they still make them like that or not. There was no difference in steel or heat treatment.

Jim
 
Building up a Remington

If you want a nice accurate varmint rifle, get one of the el-cheapo Remingtons from Wally World, or your favorite dealer. Take it out of the stock, and send the barreled action off to a good accuracy gunsmith. I recommend Paul Dorsey, Speedy Gonzales, Col. Stevens, or someone of that general calibre.

They'll take the barrel off, and add it to their collection of tomato stakes in their garden. Next they'll true and square the action, glue it into a stiffening sleeve, then screw in a nice match quality barrel in your desired taper. We've spent about $600-750 or so thus far. A good trigger will set you back about $100. And one of Gale's stocks will go another $250 or so. That's about it. Oh yeah - If you want, someone can paint "tactical" on the side with black paint, but that adds major $$ to the project... (grin)
 
There is no difference between them except for what you mentioned. The 40X's have stainless recievers. They are available in solid bottom single shots and open bottom repeaters. The Sendero's and VS's use different(and better)followers than you will find on the El Cheapo models.
 
But save the barrels from the other 700's

Because they shoot just fine. I mean the 700 Varmints (VLS, VSSF, etc), as well as the 700PSS/Police/LTR, and the Senderos. Easily sub-MOA guns, right out of the box, and I have the groups to prove it if anybody wants to argue the point. I kick myself for not grabbing a 700 Varmint when they were offered in .260 Remington (anybody got a spare?), but at least I snagged a PSS in .308.

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Hey JohnDog, Always nice to be able to agree with someone, and I do agree with "Gewehr98's" post.

I've had access to 5 Bull Barreled Remingtons recently (some my own/some other folks) in both 223Rem and 308Win. In each case, they were all capable of 0.5MOA with a specially developed handload using Match Grade bullets, weight segregated cases, Match Primers and various Powders.

The last one I owned was a M700VLS in 308Win with a Vari-X III 6.5-20x50mm scope and it would stay in the 4s with it's favorite Load. Actually, I do believe the "limiting factor" was the trigger-yanker(me). Sure would have been nice to have seen what one of the BenchRest folks could have done with it but I never ran into one while at the range.

I do agree it is possible to spend a heck of a lot more on a rifle, but it is going to be very difficult to beat their from-the-box accuracy.

Oh yes, one last thing. In each of those rifles I noticed they had "tight chambers" or basically cut to the SAAMI "minimum". This resulted in exceptionally long case life since the brass was not flexing as much as in a standard cut chamber. I can not say for sure that Remington is cutting them tight "intentionally" in the Bull Barreled rifles, but it sure is a heck of a coincidence that all 5 were that way.

Good hunting and clean 1-shot kills, Hot Core
 
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