Reminder: Starbucks Appreciation Day TOMORROW (Tuesday)!!

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Just a quick reminder that Starbucks Appreciation Day is tomorrow (Valentine's Day) in response to the National Gun Victims Action Council boycott, so make sure to get some coffee or pastries at Starbucks in support of their firearm policies. In case you haven't heard about it yet, the NGVAC is boycotting Starbucks tomorrow because the company allows lawful people to carry in their store. Here's a link explaining everything:
http://www.pagunblog.com/2012/01/23/starbucks-appreciation-day-2/

Make sure after you go that you shoot an e-mail to Starbucks, telling them why you went to the store and that you support their gun policies. Here's the link to write them:
http://www.starbucks.com/customer-service/contact/company-information-form

Also, pass this to all your friends! The idea isn't to just make up for lost business, but for the company to make even more money than if the boycott hadn't occurred. My wife and I will be at Starbucks tomorrow, and I hope y'all will, too.

PS Sorry if you have already seen this, but I really think it's important for gun owners to frequent stores that allow us to exercise our rights. Also, I'll be sending this message to some other forums I'm a member of.
 
I know folks who work the line at Starbucks. None of them had the slightest idea what I was talking about and will view anyone who decides to talk pro or antigun as nuts who need to order and get OFF the line.

This is from someone who is reasonable progun and I've taken to the range.

So the foam should be on your drink and not from your mouth if you do go there.

Haha!
 
So the foam should be on your drink and not from your mouth if you do go there.
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I'm really worried that that's not going to be the case. I spoke with some of the overzealous crowd on Friday, and a bunch of them are going to open carry to the location near my work to show their appreciation. I was unable to dissuade them.

Starbuck's explicitly asked both sides of the debate not to drag them into this as a political issue, and I worry that it will be gun owners, not the NGVAC, that could force a policy change. So far, they've been great about it as a corporation, but like any company, they'll respond if they get enough complaints from customers.
 
Mr.Servo, I hope you don't mind the excerpt,
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...and a bunch of them are going to open carry to the location near my work to show their appreciation.
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Man, I hope they change their mind. To me, it casts an image of a group of folks who insist upon making a point instead of simply showing appreciation.
 
I believe that at one time Starbucks was on the NRA list of businesses to avoid as they were anti-firearms.

Regardless of the corporate attitude on firearms, it does not mean that the franchisees adhere to an anti-firearms agenda. They should be judged on their individual merits and not punished by those who disagree with the corporate policy pro or con. They are simply trying to run a business, serve their customers, and make a living.
 
Am watching the story on CNBC right now. The NGAC (or NGVAC? - their spokesperson is Elliot Fineman) is calling for the boycott to go on indefinitely until Starbucks changes their policy. The way in which the group is determining its effectiveness is by how much its members say they are not spending. The spokesman went on to say that they have run Montecarlo simulations on their boycott and that they predict that the boycott will have a significant impact on Starbucks business, a double digit impact.

As the spokesman noted, there are no demonstrations. People just won't be going to Starbucks and that will drive the business down.

I am fairly confident that like so many publicized boycotts, this boycott of Starbucks will be a non-event or minor blip. Contrary to the doom and gloom predictions, there has been no negative effect on Starbucks stock price.

Something I find amusing is that Starbucks has stated that they don't want to be in the middle of this poliitical debate. They are simply operating within the parameters of the law. As Fineman pointed out, they can operate within the law by not allowing guns as well, posting signs and then calling the police when customers come in with guns, that this is an easy thing to do.

I don't think Fineman realizes that the "easy thing to do" of calling the cops on your customers isn't easy, isn't good for business, and puts Starbucks in the position of being a societal enforcer of one segment's agenda, something Starbucks wants no part of being.

Based on the Starbucks comments, Starbucks is not wishing to be either pro gun or anti-gun. They have determined that the easiest and best way for them to run their businesses it to adhere to the limitations of the law. Operating in this manner requires the least effort on Starbucks' part.
 
The people who are fanatic for their coffee fix - won't care a bit about this. There will be minimal positive or negative impact.

Just a PR stunt by the antis.
 
I open carried in my local Starbucks - not to make a point, but because the counterman would be taking my temperature to see what was wrong with me if I had not.

One other gent came in, open carrying a Glock. That's rare enough around here to convince me he was "making a statement."
 
Just a PR stunt by the antis.
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So are our repeated call for boycotts at places like Walgreens, Dominos, Target, Jared's, Chuck E. Cheese, Marriott, Kroger, Bank of America, Citibank, IKEA, etc. also just publicity stunts by pro gun folks?
 
Mr. James, did you see a WRC-TV news crew at the Starbucks you went to?

The open carry "crusade" story was carried on the local NBC station. They did a fairly good report, not biased against the carriers, IMO.
 
So.....walked into the campus starbucks today to get my fix. Fella behind the counter I know as once having gone through fraternity recruitment and having a brief discussion over firearms with.

He specifically asked if I was coming in as a response to the boycott.

I told him no, and he chuckled. I asked why and he said that his manager had conducted a team meeting concerning the issue, which was made all the more ludicris because it's an on campus establishment.

Makes me feel bad for the Starbucks higher ups.
 
So are our repeated call for boycotts at places like Walgreens, Dominos, Target, Jared's, Chuck E. Cheese, Marriott, Kroger, Bank of America, Citibank, IKEA, etc. also just publicity stunts by pro gun folks?
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Unfortunately, yes. We're not numerous or organized enough for a boycott to have much of an effect. As Glenn said, the real impact (on either side) is too small to be measurable.
 
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