Remember the Girl on the School Bus in Florida?

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Officer suspended in bus incident

The officer had handcuffed and arrested a girl after witnesses reported seeing a student toss things from a bus.

By MATTHEW WAITE AND JACOB H. FRIES
Published February 10, 2006

ST. PETERSBURG - The city police officer who handcuffed a 13 year-old girl aboard a school bus Nov. 16 was suspended for a week without pay after an investigation found he shouldn't have arrested her, his bosses said Friday.

Police Chief Chuck Harmon said the officer, Roberto Rolon, did not violate any policies when he handcuffed the girl after witnesses reported seeing a student throwing things out of the bus window. Harmon also said the officer was right to stop the bus.

However, witness interviews and an 18-minute videotape of the incident showed there wasn't enough evidence for Rolon to arrest Ashley Marie Mitchell, let alone support the disorderly conduct charge that prosecutors later dropped, Harmon said.

"He made some judgment errors, in my opinion," Harmon said of Rolon.


Rolon learned of his suspension Thursday evening, when it began. He was also referred to police counseling. Under police rules, he can appeal the discipline.

The Mitchell family's attorney, John McGuire, applauded Harmon's comments and said he hoped the department might develop new policies to prevent a similar incident. The family has not made a decision whether to file a civil lawsuit.

McGuire said the girl continues to experience pain in her shoulder and has suffered the taunts of classmates since the handcuffing.

"The reality is that sometimes good cops do bad things," McGuire said during a news conference at his Clearwater law firm.

Luis Mitchell, the girl's father, also praised Harmon.

"My daughter has been stressed out over this," he said. "She has been humiliated."

Ashley, who did not take reporters' questions, said only: "I'm just happy that chief of police believed me and that's basically it."

The arrest received increased attention because it came months after another videotaped arrest involving a St. Petersburg police officer handcuffing a 5-year old girl who had thrown a tantrum in her kindergarten classroom.

Harmon, however, said the two incidents were very different. He said Rolon didn't violate policy handcuffing Mitchell, and that policy likely won't change. The handcuffing of the 5-year-old, which received worldwide attention, did result in policy changes that now limit when officers can interact with students.

Apart from policy, Rolon's bosses said he could have handled the situation better.

The video shows Mitchell, sitting among a group of kids Harmon said were misbehaving, stand up and shout that she didn't throw anything. Rolon then walks to the back of the bus, grabs the girl, twists her arm behind her back and marches her to the front of the bus, saying: "I don't play. . . . I don't play."

Rolon is later seen loudly lecturing the busload of middle schoolers about how "law enforcement always wins" when people "play" with the police.

Harmon and Lt. Greg Schwemley, Rolon's supervisor, said the officer should have called the girl to the front of the bus when she began misbehaving and ordered her to sit near him, instead of going to the back of the bus and arresting her.

Harmon and Schwemley also said the lecture was uncalled for, given that most of the students were behaving.

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http://www.sptimes.com/2006/02/10/Southpinellas/Officer_suspended_in_.shtml

Must be nice. Assault, unlawful detention, violation of civil rights. Punishment, one week suspension, no pay. Talk about a slap on the wrist.
 
What's even nicer is that a loud mouth brat is going to get paid for trying to look cool in front of her friends
 
The rant of the apologist

"What's even nicer is that a loud mouth brat is going to get paid for trying to look cool in front of her friends"

That's your take.

Here's mine:

What's even nicer is that a cop throwing a temper tantrum was publicly handed a reality check and a bus full of students learned that, fascist rants about playing with police notwithstanding, someone who has the strength and integrity to stand up for her rights occasionally wins.

Odd to find someone on a firearms rights board rubber-stamping the obvious over-reaction of the cop in question, while decrying the real champion of freedom in this unfortunate episode.

Tell us again how breaking into people's homes and forcibly disarming them when looters ran wild while cops joined them or fled made New Orleans safer.... :barf:
 
Wildcard = turn the record over.

Still into the same ole tired cop bashing mode? - give it a rest.

Yawn....:rolleyes:

12-34hom.
 
Still into the same ole tired cop bashing mode?


And I see you still in the "cops can do no wrong mode". Aren't we both content.;)

12-34hom, please tell me why you think this cop is in the right?
 
12-34hom, please tell me why you think this cop is in the right?
Tell me at what point it bacame OK for a 13 year old girl to yell at a police officer in such a manner?
I'm not defending his actions but I can tell you that when I was that age, you did not address a police officer in such a manner. If I had, I would have gotten a lot worse punishment from my mother and father than any cop. I wouldn't have been able to sit for a week.
 
Tell me at what point it bacame OK for a 13 year old girl to yell at a police officer in such a manner

Where is a law written that you cant yell at a police officer? I understand that you should not yell at a cop, catch more flies with honey kinda thing.


The officer was clearly in the wrong. Where is it ok for him to do what he did? Threaten, humiliate this girl. She stands up, shouts she was not the one who did it.
 
(1934, just kidding!)

I agree with your assessment that the kid was out of line. But she's a kid and the LEO is an adult charged with the responsibility of acting professional in the line of duty...that supercedes the kids behavior in my mind. SOmeone has to act like the adult and it was on him this time. As it is he acted like a 13 yr old himself.
 
Sorry joab, the citizen with a badge was in the wrong.
Yes he was, but just because one party is wrong does not make the other party right.

If I remember correctly she stood up and started yelling that she didn't do it before he even addressed her.
Why would she do that if not to get attention?
Odd to find someone on a firearms rights board rubber-stamping the obvious over-reaction of the cop in question, while decrying the real champion of freedom in this unfortunate episode.
Another clairvoyant genius.
Please show me where I made any comment in the post you commented on about the cops actions much less made any apologies
Unfortunately what isn't odd on this firearms related board is someone that thinks they can read my mind by reading a post that does not address the issue that they are declaring my position on
Tell us again how breaking into people's homes and forcibly disarming them when looters ran wild while cops joined them or fled made New Orleans safer.
OK as soon as you find any post of mine supporting that action

RIF guys RIF
 
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Wildcard, where in my post did in infer that this officer was right in the actions he took? I have never claimed that Leo's never make mistakes or do no wrong.

The gist of my post was directed towards you, and your ever present stirring of the pot - This "Us vs.Them" issue. You are a self admitted cop hater, a rather opaque one at that. Your diatribes are equally poor & self serving.

Is that plain enough for you? One can only hope.

12-34hom.
 
Tell me at what point it bacame OK for a 13 year old girl to yell at a police officer in such a manner?

I believe that it was sometime in the late 1770's if I'm not mistaken.

My question to YOU is at what point is it OK for a police officer to forcibly detain/arrest/handcuff someone just for yelling that they are innocent?

If I stand on a street corner and shout at the first cop who drives by that I'm innocent, will I be arrested? Probably not so does why a 13 yr old get subjected to special treatment for the same thing?

IMO the cop was in the wrong BECAUSE he failed to follow one simple rule.... You don't arrest/detain/handcuff someone without PROOF of wrongdoing. He had none and all the comments about the girl wanting attention or having something to hide are meaningless because there was no proof of wrongdoing.

The Star Chamber does not exist in this country no matter how much some would like it to.
 
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