Rem Mod 11 Military Finish

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Denny Crane

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This gun belongs to my father and I would like to spruce it up a little for him while he can still shoot it. Dad says he gave 40.00 for it in about 1955 in about the same condition it is in now. It will be kept in the family along with any other family owned guns.

Fairly sure it is a riot gun with a serial # 48096* dating to about 1943?

The barrel has the US flaming bomb but is stamped "IMP". It measures 25" to the reciever and I don't think it has been cut down.

The stock has some missing wood and has been cut down and a pad added.

The stock needs replaced and I need several other small parts.

I need the tang screw/bolt? Someone has put a machine screw in it.

Friction rings.....what friction rings?? There are none! No wonder it kicked so bad?

The more I read about the military riot models the more I think I should try to keep it original???

Any advice? On finding an original stock? Misc small parts?

Reblue or leave as is which is maybe 40% or less but no rust.

I am more than willing to pay the right guy to restore this shotgun and I really don't care if I spend more than it's market value.

But I don't know who that is?

Do you?

Thanks
 
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Open to either in this case.

I normally like to do it myself including hot salt bluing but I just haven't found (or made) the time to dive into this shotgun.

And I would like to surprise him with it.

If I can find the parts I would probably finish it myself.

Suggestions?

Is it worth keeping as original as possible?
 
Original as possible is what collectors are looking for; but, it seems you want it restored for your dad more than a future collector. With only 40%, there are cleaner units that will attract collectors. I think you'll be happy with a GI restoration -- nice for you and your dad, but no museum curators will be knocking at your door.
 
Any suggestions who might do a turn-key job?

GI restoration?

I thought the riot guns had "CYL" barrels? This one is "IMP"? I will have to check the serial numbers on the barrel tomorrow to see if they match. I know they match elsewhere and assume the barrel is also original.

Although collector value isn't the goal I would hate to stray from original where it can be avoided.

I have considered just buying another Mod 11 with good wood and use it for parts.
 
Unfortunately, most of the WWII ears gunsmiths have retired. I've seen many of my area gun shops close within the last 10 to 15 years. Perhaps there's a Mil. M-11 fan with a recommendation for you.

Does your stock have an inspector's cartouche? smooth or checkered? Do the numbers match? (The stock should have the serial number in the tang cut out.)

Does the receiver have engraving, is it marked Military Finish?

If your barrel doesn't have US stamped on it, it may be a arsenal reconditioned gun. Do the numbers match? If not, then you know it's a replacement barrel?
 
The stock has the stamp but someone really butchered it when they cut it down. I think it must be replaced. It is smooth.

No engraving but is marked Military Finish.

Bolt says Model 11.

Barrel is US stamped but also has the "IMP" stamp. I thought they were "CYL"??

Numbers match.
 
I thought the riot guns had "CYL" barrels? This one is "IMP"?
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You're assuming that your M-11 was a "riot" gun. A lot of M-11s saw service in WWII, perhaps yours was an Air Corps "Skeet gun" used to train aerial gunners.
 
I was thinking of the choke and barrel length. IINM, the government grabbed up all the shotguns they could early in WWII. Typically, the commercial shotguns available were in three barrel lengths: 20-inch "riot" guns for guard and security use; 25 to 26-inch Skeet barrels and 30-inch trap barrels. The Skeet and trap guns were typically were used for aerial gunnery training. The short "riot" guns typically had cylinder chokes and the longer barrels had a verity of chokes like: Skeet, Imp. Cyl., Full and Full-Trap. It seems reasonable not to exclude your gun from the gunnery training group.

When I was in the USN, during the Vietnam era, the destroyer I was on had a few Model-11s with the longer barrels. From time to time we shot clays with them while underway. I guess they could have been considered "gunnery training" models -- we considered it recreation.
 
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