Rem Mod 11, great grandpas gun

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emtmark

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near as i can tell from looking here, there and searching the almighty google I have been givin a remington model 11 serial 46874 (found just ahead of the loading gate/area) the barrell is marked with remington at the 12 with browning patent dates and "full" at he 9 oclock (indicates full choke i hope), the barrel is 28" from bead to end of enclosed tube, behind the ring (which rides on the magazine tube, not friction rings, its attached to the barrel) are the markings 46874, a slash moving down from left to right stamped into the metal, the letter "B", and an upside down V or delta. While i'm not complelety gun illiterate I am not by any means knowledgeble about this shot gun. The stock was broken at the wrist by presumably my elders and repaired with what looks like tar tape. It functions but very stiff and slow with lots of resistance, there is a button on right side that acts as a bolt release or allows loading of shells. the forestock is intact and what looks like a pices of cork in the end of the magazine. the safety is on the trigger itself. What do i have here? id like to shoot it but obviously its pretty old, :) it is in my family and is refered to by my grand mother as dads elephant gun. Oh and the firing pin appears to be round when viewed from the bolt face ive not been able to dissasemble it as I don't want to break it, yet! Please give me a jingle or post up if you can help! Mark ps I don't always have a lot of cash but i make some bad ass first aid kits and maybe you need one, we can chat! thank you guys your input is always top notch. Got my old revolver ID'ed and fixed up quick!
 
YIKES - use a period or two......Hard to read.

Try cleaning it first - it may be stiff from some gunk buildup.

With the action closed. slip a wooden dowel down the barrel, mark and measure - that will give you the length. Full does mean full choke.
 
lol, yeah punctuation and cursive are things that just diddn't take with me. I'll try to do better. I've been told I type in "stream of thought". That helped me once in a single essay in college. Not getting graded for it in real life I've never really put much effort into it, meh. I will endevour to improve good sir.

28in on the wood dowel, spoke with a remington rep. He believes the gun was a 1905-1906 based on his records. Had nothing bad to say except that the stock will be hard to find, any leads on that? :D
 
Check the chamber dimension, make sure it is for 2-3/4 inch shells and not 2-1/2. Some older guns from that era were. Remember a 2-3/4 will fit in a 2-1/2" gun because the measurement listed is the fired hull length. IF it is 2-1/2, do not shoot 2-3/4 - too long, too much pressure, bad things happen to nice people that way.

Try Numrich for parts......also shotgunworld.com has sections for lovers of various makes (scroll down past the basic sections). IIRC, there is a section for Remington fans - they might be able too point you in the right direction
 
Beside being a priceless heirloom, the 11 is a better than typical shotgun.

Made by Remington on a JMB patent, these were one of the reasons magazine plugs were invented.

Early market hunters added mag extensions and annihilated whole flocks of waterfowl.

Early ones have short chambers. Polywad and Fiocchi carry 2 1/2" ammo among others. Or, class act smiths like Jess Briley or Mike Orlen can work it over into a 2 3/4" gun.

Due to age, I'd stick to lighter loads and skip the non toxics. Also, it's not a great candidate for a flat black tactical makeover.

Brownell's has stocks at times. Wenig will make you one, but it's pricey.

And, in your shoes I'd have a good smith take it down, clean and lube it and replace the buffer at the rear of the receiver. After a century or so, it may need it.

HTH....
 
You can go to Remington's website, and under the Contact Us tab, send them an email. Tell them the serial number and they can tell you the model, grade, and year it was produced.
 
Dave I saw that, but too many folks here won't.....YOU know that, I know that, a few others here know that, most don't......many don't realize that the stated length is the fired shell length and will drop an unfired one in an old gun, see that it fits and pull the trigger - possibly with disastrous results....


I'm just sayin'................
 
After reading threads on here and other forums, I need reminding at times that certain factoids I take for granted may not be known as basic truths by many folks, especially those just buying a gun or, in this case, getting an old gun as an inheritance.........

Not sure if some form of a sticky is in order or not........
 
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got to speak with a remington fellow who did the checkin and stated "wow...........that makes it........well..........1905"
1905 to 1906 were numbers 34054-48840!
HOW COOL IS THAT!
We chatted for a while and it is a 2 3/4 gun, the safety on the trigger was from 1905 to 1928, and if i can find a stock shoot it. With the caveats of lead loads, good cleaning, and once over by a smith. I may need a tutorial about the friction rings and as always with these things i'm going to start looking for a manual. I do want to shoot it if at all possible, at least once, maybe more.
numrich, gunparts.com and surplusrifle .com have all been reccomended
whats too much for a stock? I would like to get one I just don't want to go for a ride if can avoid it. mark
 
EXCELLENT....I recently saw a thread where someone posted a link to the manual....try a google search, I'll bet you can find it before I do (in my house the wife is the google queen)

even though they stated it is 2-3/4, I would stick to low pressure target loads - no need to beat this lady up..........

Places like Numrich will charge what they charge - they're not gougers, but they're not a garage sale outlet either - remember - you're looking for a part to fit a 100 plus year-old gun - they're not exactly going to be in your local wally world

AND WHERE THE HECK ARE THE PICS OF THIS BEAUTY???????

Enquiring minds want to see!
 
Browning stocks won't work on a Remington Model 11, well at least not look good doing it. If that date is correct that wasn't really a model 11 they called them Remington Autoloading Shotguns back then, I don't remember the date when they stamped the Model 11 on the reciever though.

For parts including a stock here is a place that has them.
http://www.gun-parts.com/index.html/

For the manual here is a PDF of it.
http://stevespages.com/pdf/remington_11.pdf

Is yours a pistol grip stock or straight stock? If it is a straight stock you might be able to work a Model 8 stock and get it to fit with some wood working.
 
can i post them here?
:D
 

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there is no model 11 stamped on the receiver, i'm hard pressed to find anything stamped on the receiver! lol. the remington tie in was from the barrell markings where my new shotguns would have a shell size mark and makers stamp. it just says remington blah blah next line browning pat number 1 through bazillion

i got to go to bed ill try and get back to this when i get home in a couple of days
thanks yall im having a blast learning about this gun
mark:D
 
Yours is a little earlier than mine @ #114117;) And the 11 had a rep for breaking/splitting stocks and forends. After 2 of them I went for the black plastic/fiberglass and no more problems. Low base put the Tapered ring between the receiver and spring, high base between the friction ring & spring with the taper toward the friction ring.
 
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Related, but not a large thread shift...

I thought the Garrand type safety within the trigger guard of the M11 was discontinued atound 1909 or so.

Help clear the cobwebs.

salty
 
emtmark-
You can get stocks and a few parts from Numrich Arms.
http://www.e-gunparts.com/DisplayAd.asp?chrProductSKU=159560B&chrSuperSKU=159560&MC=

A little trivia:
Remington made the first Browning A5 shotguns after Winchester turned down the design because it didn't have a lever. Remington made shotguns for Browning until they had a falling out over another one of Browning's designs. JMB went to Belgium on a trip and met up with the folks at FN, who jumped at the chance to make guns for Browning.
 
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