Rem 1187 barrel seal: how long before replacing?

ModIMark0

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I purchased a used police trade in 1187 about four and a half years ago. I initially could not get the magazine extension connector ring (Remington made) to rotate, and assumed that it had been fastened on with Loc-Tite.
After more than four years and a few hundred rounds I gave the ring another try and lo and behold, it loosened. I then gave the 1187 a thorough cleaning. While the piston seal, piston, and barrel seal were dirty, they cleaned up and look fine. But it got me to thinking, how long before one would want to replace those three parts, and especially the barrel seal? It basically appears to be an o-ring, and Brownells has them available when/should the need to replace it occur.
Should I consider the number or rounds through it, condition of the parts (probably the most obvious), amount of time that they have been on the shotgun, or some other criteria? So far, I have not had any problems with the action, apart from the rare cycling failure (failure to eject) with light trap-type loads. But then, I have heard that this is to be expected with the police type 1187s which were made to cycle heavier loads.
 
Just because I'm anal about it, I'd replace the O ring every 5K rounds, and the springs every 10K or so. I'd also keep spares close by....
 
I don't doubt that these o-rings fail, but I've owned three 1100s and have never had a problem with an o-ring. I replaced one when I had the gun reblued just to give it a fresh start, not because it was shot out. And I do shoot them a lot. Pins, steel plates, slugs on cardboard, whatever the game is.
I have never really counted the rounds fired, but I doubt if either of my two current guns have hit 5,ooo rounds yet.
I clean these guns approximately every 250 rounds or so. I do check and clean the o-ring very carefully because I've heard of other people having problems with theirs.
One is in the bedroom right now ready to roll.

I suppose if it bothers you or you have had a problem with the o-ring you could change it out whenever you want.
 
I replace the o-ring every ~5K. I keep spares around as well.

According to the Remington tech line, the 1187 police models are setup to shoot standard and magnum type buck/slug loads. You may run into difficulties with reduced recoil offerings as well as "field" loads. Check to confirm you have a "police model" not a standard 1187 that was used by the police. I believe the serial numbers start with "PC".
 
stick,
I just checked, and the serial numbers to begin with 'PC'.It was a shotgun that Gibb's rifle Co. was selling from some buysfrom a police dept. Mine has some dings/chips on the fore end at about the location that a cruiser's vertical mount would have it's locking collar.
According to Gibb's, their were also some folding stock 1187's for sale as well, but I never asked them what type was used. I was not familiar with any folding stocks for the 1100/1187, but I know of the Sage International Conversion that can modify the 1100/1187 action to accomodate their collapsible stock. I wish I had asked if they had a pic of one of them. Thanks for the info people.
 
Just as information . . .

The 12 gauge 11/87 uses a 1/16" x 15/16" o-ring, available from Tru-Value Hardware for $0.29 each. This represents significant savings over the Remington price, and works just as well. I buy 'em by the half dozen. ;)
 
ModIMark0,

I've worked with a few folding stock/pistol grips on 870/1100/1187. The ones I've run were loose on the lockup (rear stock to receiver wobbles) and the butt pad has much to be desired (narrow and straight). The use I can see for them is in limited transport/storage space such as clipped to the saddle bag of your motor unit.

If you are looking for some birdshot "practice ammo", try something in the 3.75 dram 1.25 oz range. Then adjust from there.
 
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